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To think that it's impossible to vote for Jeremy Corbyn after last night's interview?

771 replies

PleaseDontLaugh · 27/11/2019 05:56

To be upfront : I would never vote for Labour or Corbyn anyway, for various reasons.. But that was not a good interview and had I been considering it I would be very concerned now.

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spacepyramid · 27/11/2019 09:09

I was going to vote Lib Dem but I think I'll now be voting Labour as I think they have more chance of defeating the Tories, looking at the opinion poll I saw yesterday on a site which I accidentally closed and have forgotten the name of it clearly showed how the forecast Lib Dem/Labour votes were just splitting the opposition.

feistymumma · 27/11/2019 09:09

Voting labour here, always have always will

spacepyramid · 27/11/2019 09:10

found the poll - www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

Solihooley · 27/11/2019 09:10

don't forget he's someone who was quite prepared to give the home address of a journalist to a friend when said friend told Johnson that he wanted to commit an act of violence on him.

Ah yes, I always forget about this. Not just the harmless bumbling idiot.

wafflyversatile · 27/11/2019 09:12

I speak as a relatively young person who wants to make a vote for the "right" person for my values and beliefs, but doesn't want to listen to all the one upmanship, petty arguments that seem to dominate politics now. It's like listening to a bunch of children.

Look at the policies or go on a website that asks you questions then tells you who aligns most closely with you.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 27/11/2019 09:12

Labour is a shit show. People on welfare will be no better off. All the sweeties they're handing out have 2030 in the small print. The racism. The threat to women. Corbyn, who is personally racist and if he's not lying it's because he doesn't understand the question. It's no good saying he probably has good intentions because if that's the bar I'm sure fucking Johnson thinks he has good intentions too. How the hell did we get to this point?

ManOfPeeves · 27/11/2019 09:12

Do you think that Putin's Russia (or any other nuclear power) has held off, or will hold off, pressing the button because of the puny UK and its Trident "deterrent"? Not at all. Too many people assume that Great Britain is still actually great. It isn't - it lost that epithet during, and after, World War Two.

wafflyversatile · 27/11/2019 09:12

Hes one of the most elected MPs in parliament, btw.

Figmentofmyimagination · 27/11/2019 09:13

The hard left is fervently pro-Palestinian - and they hate the Israeli government for its treatment of Palestinians. This isn’t new. You see them crowding outside TUC Congress every year trying to lobby people as they go in. Their problem is that some people articulate that hate using thoroughly unacceptable language, conflating being Jewish with being Israeli, and conflating Israeli people with the state of Israel - and now, with unregulated social media, it’s there for everyone to see.

The weaponising of religion in this election is awful to see. Extraordinary that Welby thought it was appropriate to add his two pennies worth yesterday.

catspyjamas123 · 27/11/2019 09:13

I’m a non-WASPI woman. Is it moral to tax me more to compensate them? Why? I have to work to the same retirement age as men - fair enough. What about men of WASPI age? Why not compensate them for having to work to 65? Nobody dare say that it’s maybe wrong to tax all of us to pay them a lump sum. Because that’s what will happen as the government hasn’t got a spare £60bn tucked away. As far as I can see the WASPIs, on finally realising they couldn’t retire at 60, could simply have worked to 65 - as I will have to. 66 in fact.

Moonmelodies · 27/11/2019 09:13

A lot of people worry that voting Labour would result in us crashing out of the EU with no deal (maybe JC's preference?), whilst JC negotiates his better deal, then we have another referendum, then parliament has another endless bunfight over the details.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/11/2019 09:15

(Corbyn) is one of the most elected MPs in parliament

And yet, in nearly four decades, no Labour leader has ever chosen to give him a cabinet position or other senior post of any kind

Why do you suppose that is?

Littletabbyocelot · 27/11/2019 09:16

OP are you as bothered that the alternative pm has not only failed to tackle institutionalised racism in his party but has also made incredibly racist comments himself. See his book for descriptions of hook-noses, half-castes, slanty eyes. Or is the outrage at Jeremy Corbyn politically motivated?

AhNowTed · 27/11/2019 09:16

@Bluntness100

Jeremy Corbyn is not anti-Semitic. I'm not sure where you get the idea that he 'admitted' being so. He is anti-Israeli government policy with regards Palestinians as are many people including myself.

Miriam Margoyles was interviewed on C4 last night. She is Jewish and said the same.

And as regards borrowing, the Tories have borrowed more since 2010 than every Labour government combined, despite 9 years of austerity. Source;ONS.

I'm not a big Corbyn fan either, but no way could I vote for this pathological lying shower of self-interested scumbags the current Tory lot are.

ManOfPeeves · 27/11/2019 09:20

This country won't need to worry too much about Corbyn by the end of the year. Blobby Boris will probably get a majority and then it's going to be Brexit. Goodnight Vienna.

MarshmallowMuggle · 27/11/2019 09:21

One of the most elected MPs, but only in a seat where you could put up a budgie in a red rosette and it would still get voted in Hmm.

If he’d been in a swing seat, like Hammersmith & Fulham, or Hastings & Rye, or Canterbury, do you think you’d be able to say that?

ShatnersWig · 27/11/2019 09:21

Come on Clavinova what about the non-costing of hospitals yet claiming to be building 40 more? I'm all for you demolishing Labour lies as long as you do it the other way too. Balance.

hamstersarse · 27/11/2019 09:22

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Sksksksk · 27/11/2019 09:23

Choosing between labour and conservatives feels like being asked to decide which you’d prefer between Ebola or the plague. Two fiscally deluded racists who seem to be in it for themselves. I’ve never been this unsure how best to vote.

ArthurtheCatsHumanSlave · 27/11/2019 09:24

fullfact.org/election-2019/labour-broadband-maintenance/

Oooops..... we got out figures wrong, actually it will cost THREE times as much.

I'll just leave this here.....

WorldEndingFire · 27/11/2019 09:24

The fact that you wouldn't vote for Labour anyway makes this more of a pointless straw poll than it already is. Unless you're voting in his constituency, what you are voting for is Labour Party policy and I would wager good money you hadn't read a single sentence of this excellent manifesto that has been backed by economists across the board and the IFS.

labour.org.uk/manifesto/

labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Funding-Real-Change-1.pdf

amp.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae

www.ifs.org.uk/election/2019/article/labour-manifesto-an-initial-reaction-from-ifs-researchers

ThatsMeInTheSpotlight · 27/11/2019 09:27

Well done on being upfront about your allegiances. That's refreshingly honest for an election thread Wine

I think anyone who changes their voting preference on the basis of an interview is an idiot. We vote for parties not leaders and the media have proven time and again they may have their own bias and agenda understatement of the year

Mjlp · 27/11/2019 09:27

I’m a teacher and for me voting anyone but Labour is not an option. I’ve seen the damage the current government has done to the community I serve.

Tory austerity policies have caused huge suffering to the poorest and most vulnerable people in our society.

And most of all children. Poor children don't exist to the tories. Their two child limit and benefit cap, freeze, changes, etc, plummeting innocent children into poverty and suffering.

I don't care about how well or badly Jeremy Corbyn came across in a TV interview, I will 110% vote for Labour because I agree with most of their policies.

Mahatma Gandhi: The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members.

MaxNormal · 27/11/2019 09:27

A lot of people worry that voting Labour would result in us crashing out of the EU with no deal

Thats absolute nonsense. Corbyn plans to avoid any no deal scenario or hard Brexit due to the damage it will do to the country.
The Tories on the other hand... a vote for them makes No Deal very likely.

MrsMaiselsMuff · 27/11/2019 09:27

I'll be voting Labour. That interview was always going to go badly because it's Neil's style to shout people down. He spent ten minutes on anti semitism and sod all on the NHS, education, workers rights, and all the policies that will actually make a difference to people's lives.

Vote for a better country, not for who the press panders to the most.