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To think that it's impossible to vote for Jeremy Corbyn after last night's interview?

771 replies

PleaseDontLaugh · 27/11/2019 05:56

To be upfront : I would never vote for Labour or Corbyn anyway, for various reasons.. But that was not a good interview and had I been considering it I would be very concerned now.

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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 30/11/2019 12:36

I think you are right Trewser

Unfortunately the left of the party and momentum have too much of a strong hold on the party. Even now calls for Corbyn to stay put after this election which we know he won’t win Hmm

Labour never learn. You have to evolve look at why the Conservatives have been so successful

ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 14:18

I'll stick with what we've got

You don't even know what you've got. You don't know anything about what Johnson will do, what the plan is, because he hasn't gone one other than getting Brexit 'done' which is totally meaningless.

Devereux1 · 30/11/2019 14:20

I genuinely don't know how anyone can watch and listen to Rebecca Long Bailey and not burst out laughing.

She's like a deranged robot whose power cord needs pulling.

Trewser · 30/11/2019 14:22

You don't even know what you've got

we, arsedarkly, what we have got. I am not responsible for this!

Trewser · 30/11/2019 14:23

Rebecca Long Bailey looks and sounds like my old cookery teacher.

ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 14:25

This won't happen without a change in direction in the Labour Party, and for that to happen there needs to be a change of leader.

Labour had a different leader in 2015 -Ed Milliband, a highly presentable, centrist candidate. The right-wing press tore him apart and people constantly complained that there wasn't a proper choice because the parties were so similar.

The reason for Corbyn's rise in popularity was the desperation of people in the country for change, so there's no point keep insisting that Labour have to ditch him and get some bland centrist figure in, it won't work.

Alsohuman · 30/11/2019 14:25

I honestly think the Labour party’s learnt its lesson from these years in the wilderness. The moderate MPs will never let Long Bailey anywhere near a members’ ballot. My money’s on Starmer or Thornberry for the next leader, probably the latter because they need a woman for credibility.

Trewser · 30/11/2019 14:26

Ed Milliband he was weak. Should have been David!

ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 14:27

No way will Emily Thornberry ever be leader.

Trewser · 30/11/2019 14:28

I think it might be keir starmer. I don't particularly like him either 🤣

Alsohuman · 30/11/2019 14:29

At least he’s a grown up @Trewser. And I think you might have to eat those words @ArseDarkly.

ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 14:30

Ed Milliband he was weak. Should have been David

Sigh..how many times have I heard that cobblers. If Milliband D had got the job hew ould have been slaughtered by the right-wing press as well and was far more tainted by his association with Blair than Ed.

wonderstuff · 30/11/2019 14:31

The alternative to Corbyn is BoJo, and given his racism, lies and Conservative record on racist policy, cuts to health and education and the numbers of deaths due to austerity I don't understand how anyone can vote for them.

ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 14:31

I'm willing to bet on it Alsohuman. Absolutely no way - who do you imagine would vote her in as leader?

Alsohuman · 30/11/2019 14:38

I would. Shall we put a fiver on it?

ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 14:39

In any case, I really don't give a shit at the moment who the next leader of Labour might be. There's no time to waste on that stuff, we are HERE, NOW. Unless people stop planning their voting on narrow self-interest we are facing a government led by Boris Johnson, one of the most despicable, corrupt individuals ever to hold office.

It is agonising and terrifying

noodlenosefraggle · 30/11/2019 16:37

The reason for Corbyn's rise in popularity was the desperation of people in the country for change, so there's no point keep insisting that Labour have to ditch him and get some bland centrist figure in, it won't work.
So do you think Labour will win a majority in 2 weeks? Even when the likelihood is that they will be wiped out in Scotland? Because that's what they need to do. At the very least be the largest party. The right wing press argument has been trotted out for 30 years. The print press is dying on its arse. Theres no point moaning about the right wing press without trying to come up with alternative ways of getting your message out. Especially since its apparently been an issue since Michael Foot! If people are crying out for change and Labour is giving them what they want, they should be annihilating the Tories. If they aren't, they need to find out how to do it. They wont. They'll gripe and blame everyone else for another 40 years.

Lizzie0869 · 30/11/2019 17:00

I'm absolutely in agreement that the Tories should be voted out, Boris Johnson is as racist and as motivated by self interest as you're all saying. But unfortunately it won't happen with. Corbyn.

You can go on all you want why people shouldn't be voting for Boris, but the fact is that there won't be enough people voting for the Labour Party with Corbyn as the leader.

(And I'm going to be voting Labour because they're the only party that's in a position to beat the Tories in my constituency.)

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/11/2019 17:14

This is the nastiest, vilest election campaign I’ve ever seen

I agree, but given the two main party leaders we've got I'm afraid I expected it

I'll say again that in the closing days of campaigning I'm waiting for some major expose of either by the other - manufactured or otherwise

MyOtherProfile · 30/11/2019 17:18

Not just the two main party leaders.

Cultoffortnite · 30/11/2019 17:19

NHS. That’s why I’m not, and would never vote, Tory and why I will vote for Corbyn or anyone else who promises not to sell it to US Pharma or private companies

Cultoffortnite · 30/11/2019 17:21

Has there ever been a more self serving PM than Boris? What DOES he actually belief in other than his own advancement? He’s a pro-European pushing for a hard Brexit. He do and say anything to further his own ambition.

ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 17:23

So do you think Labour will win a majority in 2 weeks?

At the moment, I have no idea what will happen though I don't rule it out despite the polls. They don't actually have to win a majority to put the Tories out of business as this article outlines

Also, it hasn't been 40 years since the last Labour government,

Nonnymum · 30/11/2019 17:24

At least he agreed to be interviewed by Andrew Neil Johnson is refusing to. To ensure balance the BBC shouldn't really have agreed to show it until Johnson had agreed to be interviewws. Andrew Neil is one of the most difficult interviewers.

Nonnymum · 30/11/2019 17:29

I'm not sure I understand They'll gripe and blame everyone else for another 40 years
Labour were in power between 1997 and 2010. They have been put of office for 9 years not 40! .