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To think that it's impossible to vote for Jeremy Corbyn after last night's interview?

771 replies

PleaseDontLaugh · 27/11/2019 05:56

To be upfront : I would never vote for Labour or Corbyn anyway, for various reasons.. But that was not a good interview and had I been considering it I would be very concerned now.

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ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 17:30

The right wing press argument has been trotted out for 30 years. The print press is dying on its arse.

And has moved online where, with help from fake new concocted by the Tories, they are continuing their onslaught of smears against Labour headline news, to distract from the dreadfulness of the Tories

1066vegan · 30/11/2019 17:34

And a lot of older people, who are the ones most likely to vote, still buy newspapers.

PrettyPurse · 30/11/2019 17:35

I just think that if the Tories were going to do everything they have said they will do in their manifestos to improve things.... why hasn't it already been actioned. They've been in power long enough..

Dusty01 · 30/11/2019 17:45

At least Corbyn did the bloody interview. Boris hasn’t got the balls or intelligence to even turn up.

Trewser · 30/11/2019 17:59

Literally noone cares that Boris didn't do the interview. It was a smart move IMO as now everyone remembers Corbyn being annihilated. HIGNFY very funny about it.

ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 18:09

PrettyPurse exactly. Instead of announcing that austerity is over and then doing nothing to alleviate the problems it has caused they've had time to make a start.

If Johnson cared at all about anyone else he would not try to use the people of this country as bargaining chips by threatening no-deal. He would not have called yet another election, causing more uncertainty in the economy which will hit the poorest hardest

Walkaround · 30/11/2019 18:10

PrettyPurse - of course the Conservatives are not going to improve things. Apparently, improving things is not what the majority of people actually want, anyway. Apparently, the majority just want Brexit, regardless of how shit it is or who delivers it.

ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 18:11

Literally noone cares that Boris didn't do the interview

Clearly untrue

Lizzie0869 · 30/11/2019 18:17

@ArseDarkly That's very interesting. I don't think the Lib Dems will touch Corbyn with a bargepole, Jo Swinson has said as much. But there could be a deal with the SNP, if Corbyn will agree to Scottish referendum on independence.

He said he wouldn't, but he might change his mind if the alternative is another Tory government. (Though I think they have burned their bridges with the DUP).

TheSultanofPingu · 30/11/2019 18:17

I care that he chickened out Trewser.
He's the Prime Minister ffs.
If he's not capable of coping with a tough interviewer and answering awkward questions, then he's in the wrong job.

Trewser · 30/11/2019 18:18

BJ not doing the interview is not going to make a blind bit of difference to how people vote.

TheSultanofPingu · 30/11/2019 18:30

No, sadly lots of people worship the daft twat.

ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 18:32

@ArseDarkly That's very interesting. I don't think the Lib Dems will touch Corbyn with a bargepole, Jo Swinson has said as much.

And vice-versa Lizzie usually, I would agree - there is a very deep emnity there, far more on both sides than for the Tories.

But, with the Lib Dems having their fingers well and truly burned in the Coalition and Johnson being completely opposed to Lib Dems on Brexit Swinson certainly won't want to go with the Tories so it might well be Corbyn's choice.

ArseDarkly · 30/11/2019 18:34

BJ not doing the interview is not going to make a blind bit of difference to how people vote.

It won't make a difference to people who've already decided but it might make a lot of difference to the undecided - and they make up a very important part of this electorate

Alsohuman · 30/11/2019 18:37

Literally noone cares that Boris didn't do the interview. It was a smart move IMO as now everyone remembers Corbyn being annihilated. HIGNFY very funny about it

You’re wrong, @Trewser, people care a lot. The Twittersphere is crammed with very angry people. The first question any journalist will ask him now, after dealing with the London Bridge attack, is what he’s running scared of.

Snowman123 · 30/11/2019 18:39

Amazing there aren't better candidates for running the country.
Policies and track record aside, they are both absolutely useless in front of the camera, and give me no faith whatsoever in either of their ability to run the country.

Trewser · 30/11/2019 18:40

Twitter is not RL!

It won't make a difference to people who've already decided but it might make a lot of difference to the undecided - and they make up a very important part of this electorate

Well, if that's true, then they'll cancel out the ones who decide not to vote for JC after the car crash interview.

Trewser · 30/11/2019 18:41

Amazing there aren't better candidates for running the country. Policies and track record aside, they are both absolutely useless in front of the camera, and give me no faith whatsoever in either of their ability to run the country

Agree!

noblegiraffe · 30/11/2019 18:51

Literally noone cares that Boris didn't do the interview

Oh they do. Just like they cared when he refused to speak in the press conference with Luxembourg’s Prime Minister because of hecklers. People don’t want a coward as their PM, especially not one willing to embarrass the country on the world stage.

It seems that Boris and his advisers know his limits, and that is opening his mouth.

Alsohuman · 30/11/2019 18:53

Do you know how many people are on Twitter @Trewser? It may not be real life but it’s a good barometer of it.

NotDavidTennant · 30/11/2019 19:03

It may not be real life but it’s a good barometer of it.

Studies (notably by academics Jon Mellon and Chris Prosser) have shown that Twitter users are more economically left-wing and more socially liberal than the population as a whole. The British Election Study data shows that Labour won Twitter users by 54 per cent to 27 per cent in 2017, compared to 43.5 to 41 in Great Britain overall. The same data shows that Remain won the EU referendum 68-32 on Twitter, while losing it 48-52 at the ballot box.

capx.co/is-twitter-distorting-political-debate/

Trewser · 30/11/2019 19:19

Twitter is absolutely not a barometer of real life.

Lizzie0869 · 30/11/2019 20:22

@ArseDarkly I agree with you. I hope that Corbyn and Jo Swinson are able to put aside their differences if there is a hung Parliament again. There could be an alliance between progressive parties, which could comprise Labour, Lib Dems, Greens and SNP. They would need to agree to another referendum on Scottish independence, probably.

The Tories will struggle to make any deals, especially as they've very likely burnt their bridges with the DUP.

But this all depends on the Tories not having an overall majority.

noodlenosefraggle · 30/11/2019 20:25

Labour were in power between 1997 and 2010. They have been put of office for 9 years not 4
Yes but apparently they weren't 'real' Labour. They did have positive press coverage because the press sensed the tide was turning. It is possible, but Corbyn isn't doing it.

Comradesally · 30/11/2019 20:49

Pretty, unless you missed it we were hit with a massive global credit crunch, Labour added to that pain by crippling us with their decisions adding to the pain.

Then we had tory austerity etc, trying to stabilise the UK again, that guard were thrown out and once brexit is done investment can start again, with the back drop of a rejuvenated UK free of brexit stalemate and Corbyn!!

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