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I can't watch the leaders debate tonight. I'm too angry.

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ssd · 19/11/2019 19:39

I'm too angry about brexit. And the effect it'll have on us all. I can see a tory majority happening and it sickens me. I don't know what's happened to ordinary people. They've fell for something that will make their lives worse, sold to them by an elite that has shafted them.

I can't fucking bare it.

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Oliversmumsarmy · 20/11/2019 18:49

Your point? You say the people you know voted for leave as they were fed up of the status quo. Which bits of it

Not having any money. Not having a job. Seeing jobs advertised knowing they won’t get the job. Being completely broke and struggling.

After the referendum things did ease and they all got jobs as people went home and this led to more money and all have moved into either bigger places or their own place.

cannycat20 · 20/11/2019 18:52

@Greggers2017 I'm intrigued; what part of the NHS do you work for (profession? probably not frontline healthcare, I suspect - HR? PR? CCGs? STPs? Public health campaigns?), or what part of the country are you in (Midlands?) that you think Corbyn will "ruin the country" and what evidence are you using for this opinion?

Most of my friends and family are in healthcare or education; I trained as a teacher and worked in the NHS for 15 years myself and very few people I encountered in the NHS are Tories. Not enough money in it, for starters (pharmaceuticals and some of the other essential professions listed above excepted).

Most of us would rather be struck by lightning before we'd touch the True Blues with a barge pole.

I am therefore genuinely interested in your evidence. Not opinions, not what family say, but actual evidence or at least lived experience.

On a slightly separate subject, some posters' comments about disability have me sighing with exasperation. I can only presume some of them have never been ill. When comes to disability it can cover such a wide spectrum and it isn't always possible to "power through". My dad should have been registered disabled but being a stubborn beggar he refused, and insisted on working for the then Post Office, later BT, in all weathers. Back in the days before adding a new phone line was just flicking a switch and plugging in a bit of plastic. He was dead at 62.

Friends of mine the same age as me (early 50s) variously have MS, Parkinson's, severe mental health issues (no, they're NOT all in the mind, as you'll know if you work in many parts of the NHS) and the aftermath of a serious undiagnosed stroke in their 30s. Another friend of the family has cerebral palsy. While they all kept going as long as they could, workwise, they simply could not keep working. No employer would keep them.

So I'm curious; should we adopt the old Roman system of sticking everyone unable to fund themselves out on a hillside somewhere until exposure conveniently disposes of them? I hear it's been mighty cold in Scotland and Northumberland this last week, for instance...there've been deaths already and we're only in mid-November.

Anyone who is seriously thinking of voting for BJ deserves everything they get. I just wish they weren't going to inflict misery, poverty and Russian dominance on the rest of us.

(Anyone wondering about that last statement might like to do a couple of quick Google searches to get an idea of what BJ's really up to. That's if the Tories haven't suppressed the websites, of course.)

Soen · 20/11/2019 18:52

Oliver - so you're saying EU citizens returned home and your friends were able to find employment?

longwayoff · 20/11/2019 19:35

C4 reporter to Michael Gove "can we take your word you will deliver on this? "
Gove "Absolutely, just look at our record in government."
Irony free zone

Alsohuman · 20/11/2019 20:19

That Gove interview was more car crash TV. More than one person has said to me it’s almost like they want to throw this election. It’s certainly beginning to look that way.

Jux · 20/11/2019 22:34

Greggers, I'm intrigued too. You say your dh is massively into politics and knows this stuff; yet you yourself didn't seem to know that the recession you claim as Labour's fault, was actually amglobal one and had nothing to do with any policy or action by any UK political party.

Does your dh actually know anything about politics at all but keeps it a secret from you so that you can make a fool of yourself on the interwebs?

Mamasaurus82 · 21/11/2019 06:55

@cannycat20 Thanks for your post- not enough people understand various disabilities and reasons people cannot work. Our compassion towards others is one of the things that separates humans from other animals. Smile

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