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I can't watch the leaders debate tonight. I'm too angry.

507 replies

ssd · 19/11/2019 19:39

I'm too angry about brexit. And the effect it'll have on us all. I can see a tory majority happening and it sickens me. I don't know what's happened to ordinary people. They've fell for something that will make their lives worse, sold to them by an elite that has shafted them.

I can't fucking bare it.

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Oliversmumsarmy · 20/11/2019 12:55

Deathgrip

What I said was

From the people I know who voted leave they voted to get out without a deal.
Then sort it all out later

The words From the people I know meant. that is not my opinion but what the Leavers I know thought

And as I have said before the people I know who did vote leave I don’t think took a blind bit of notice of the campaigning apart from Project Fear which was about either losing things they didn’t have in the first place or things like the bottom falling out of the housing market which they though was a great thing because they would finally be able to afford to buy a first home or it would bring the prices down to be able to get a bigger place for less.

Soen · 20/11/2019 13:02

And as I have said before the people I know who did vote leave I don’t think took a blind bit of notice of the campaigning apart from Project Fear which was about either losing things they didn’t have in the first place or things like the bottom falling out of the housing market which they though was a great thing because they would finally be able to afford to buy a first home or it would bring the prices down to be able to get a bigger place for less.

Then they clearly have no fuckig idea how an economy works. Do you not find that the least bit disconcerting?

Helmetbymidnight · 20/11/2019 13:06

I think she means herself: Oliversmum, you were a most ardent Brexiteer back in the day, right?

Alsohuman · 20/11/2019 13:06

like the bottom falling out of the housing market which they though was a great thing because they would finally be able to afford to buy a first home or it would bring the prices down to be able to get a bigger place for less.

Beyond ridiculous. Given the demographic of leavers, a fall in house prices would be bad news as a high proportion are mortgage free. It would happen only by a crash in the whol economy so do all those would be buyers think they’d still have jobs?

CendrillonSings · 20/11/2019 13:06

I live in a rock solid Tory area where one town council was 100% UKIP at one point. The things I overhear would make your hair curl.

Amazed as always how many Tory-haters choose to live in rock-solid Tory strongholds. Surely rock-solid Labour areas would be much more congenial to you?

Soen · 20/11/2019 13:08

Cendrillon - a pointless comment. You know nothing of posters circumstances. Wind yer neck in.

Alsohuman · 20/11/2019 13:09

You don’t choose where you lived based on its political complexion, do you? Or at least not if you’re normal.

MustardScreams · 20/11/2019 13:09

Ignore @CendrillonSings, they’re only use is to post inflammatory, ridiculous statements on things they don’t understand.

MustardScreams · 20/11/2019 13:09

*their

Soen · 20/11/2019 13:11

Mustard, they are certainly making themselves look stupid and lacking in reason.

Alsohuman · 20/11/2019 13:12

They’re a Tory HQ employee, you can pinpoint when the shift changes.

MustardScreams · 20/11/2019 13:14

Yes, their posting history is a rather interesting read!

Oliversmumsarmy · 20/11/2019 13:14

Soen

Tbh I think there are a lot of communities up and down the country that rightly or wrongly think the same.

I travel the country for my work and speak to local people and to some extent I could see their dissatisfaction with the status quo even before 2016.

I knew immediately when the referendum was announced that DC had no idea of how people outside the Chipping Norton set actually lived.

I think Project Fear was the worse campaigning I have seen.

Saying things like foreign holiday would be more expensive to a lot of people who couldn’t afford to go abroad anyway just showed how out of touch the Remain campaign was.

Soen · 20/11/2019 13:18

Wheres your evidence they wont be, Oliver?

As I'm sure has been mentioned til hundreds of times, people being fed up of the status quo had more to do with government policies than the EU. Could you elaborate your point a bit further?

CendrillonSings · 20/11/2019 13:19

They’re a Tory HQ employee, you can pinpoint when the shift changes.

You somehow manage to post pro-Labour stuff all day without a break - maybe you’re a whole team of Momentum drones?

MustardScreams · 20/11/2019 13:21

Nope, I’m just off work a lot at the moment due to cancer treatment. Got to take my mind off of it somehow! Politics is usually a good bet Grin

Oliversmumsarmy · 20/11/2019 13:24

Alsohuman

I don’t know about demographics of Leavers but the people I know, most were in rented and most were unemployed.

Now they have bought a place and got jobs.
And a couple of people who did own have moved to bigger places that the stall in the housing market has meant they have caught up.

So to the Brexit is working.

Alsohuman · 20/11/2019 13:24

No, I’m a politically obsessed retiree.

Alsohuman · 20/11/2019 13:26

So to the Brexit is working

Hardly, we haven’t left yet!

CendrillonSings · 20/11/2019 13:33

No, I’m a politically obsessed retiree.

So why shouldn’t political obsessives of other ages and ideologies have their say?

Oliversmumsarmy · 20/11/2019 13:35

As I'm sure has been mentioned til hundreds of times, people being fed up of the status quo had more to do with government policies than the EU. Could you elaborate your point a bit further

What do you mean my point?

I was just stating how people I know who voted leave were feeling at the time.

To them something had to change and it did and for them it was for the better.

Alsohuman · 20/11/2019 13:36

So why shouldn’t political obsessives of other ages and ideologies have their say?

Who said they shouldn’t?

Dusty01 · 20/11/2019 13:37

That's actually the first piece of sense I've read from you Cendrillon.

I think the reason people think you're being paid is because normally you say the same thing over and over again - although I can't hear you speak - your tone as you speak sounds very shrill. It is very irritating actually.

If you make more sensible comments - that are actual replies as above - people will take you more seriously and be less irritated/offended. I think.

Oliversmumsarmy · 20/11/2019 13:40

I think she means herself: Oliversmum, you were a most ardent Brexiteer back in the day, right

I voted Remain.

I wanted to be able to go and live and start a business in the EU.
I personally wanted freedom of movement.

For my arthritis alone I voted Remain.

I wanted to live in Southern Spain permanently because there I can walk and run without pain

Helmetbymidnight · 20/11/2019 13:43

I saw your posts back then - you were an ardent brexiteer. That's how I remember them, because they were so ...pro-Brexit.