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To leave because of DSS

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AngelKate22 · 06/11/2019 12:50

I feel absolutely awful even writing this, but I'm just at the end of my tether. I have name changed for this.

I have been living with my partner and DSS for just over two years now. He is 16. We aren't married, but do own the house together. DSS lives with us full time apart from every other weekend.

My partner works long, full time hours plus commute time, and I work from home. So, naturally, a lot of things like housework and sorting things out fall to me. I don't mind that, I think it's fair that the partner who is home most picks up the slack. But possibly things like this wouldn't bother me if that was different. For background, DSS used to go to my partner's parents' house after school every day, and DP would pick him up after work, but with me being at home now that seems silly.

The odd thing is, DSS is actually a nice lad, and we generally get on when no incidents are happening. But it's just that there are things he does that drive me up the wall.

We are in the process of doing up the house, and he has zero respect for anything. This week, he's dyed a load of washing red and broken the new machine by putting a snapped biro (which leaked and then got stuck in the mechanism of the machine) in with his clothes (never checks pockets, so often have tissues all over the clean washing. I normally do the washing for all of us, but he didn't put any of his in the basket and demanded that he NEEDED these jeans by the next day, so I said I'm not waiting up for it to be done as it was 11pm already, so he did them with the rest of his clothes from his floor.. and ruined them all).

We've just done the kitchen up and bought a beautiful, matching set of dishes. We asked him to use the older set when making food for himself as he's a) clumsy and b) never brings things down from his bedroom. He ignores this (usually because he's ran out of plates and can't be bothered bringing them down and washing them), and we have already had to buy a new set because he's broken 2 large plates and a pasta bowl. This is because he doesn't take care, and throws things about. He will literally throw plates onto the side if we've asked him to pick them up and take them to the kitchen. But then when he's smashed things, he won't even tell us, he just leaves the pieces on the kitchen floor or wherever they smashed.

He also spilt a can of coke (which he shouldn't even have had) on our new sofa before he was going to bed one weekend, but instead of alerting me, put a cushion over it. So by the morning it had spread and completely ruined it and the cushion. The sofa had just cost us £800. I have used stain remover on it and it has helped a bit, but you can still see it.

He gets angry sometimes when gaming, and has broken a pane of glass in the lounge door (again, new) by throwing his controller at it. Also, this anger seriously distracts me from working, as he is SO noisy and angry when playing these games. He has also had to get new controllers a couple of times because his - for some strange reason - break faster than normal.

He walks into the house on the new living room carpet in his dirty shoes, which are dirty because he cuts across the grass at the front of the house instead of taking two extra steps to get to the driveway. So the new carpet is filthy, and the grass and flowerbed is trampled. We are supposed to take our shoes off in the hallway, but he always "forgets".

I leave my phone downstairs to charge at night, and if he goes to bed after me (I go quite early so often it's DSS and DP downstairs later on) DSS's phone will be plugged in in the morning as he's unplugged mine, so mine will be low, which I need for work. The issue with that is that he actually has a charger in his own bedroom, so it completely baffles me. We only have one plug in our bedroom as it's old fashioned and we haven't got round to doing that room yet, so we have a lamp plugged into it.

I have a hobby of doing jigsaw puzzles which I do on the kitchen table. He puts his college bag on top of it, and has - several times - dragged the bag off again later, dragging the puzzle with it, onto the floor. Like the smashed dishes, he leaves it. It's crossed my mind that he does this on purpose.

Then there's all the mess he leaves behind him wherever he goes. I either have to pick it up myself or nag him constantly. No amount of nagging changes it. I don't mind what his bedroom looks like, but I would like the family parts of the home to be neat and tidy, and he literally has to walk past a bin to get back upstairs to his bedroom.

He has a habit of going out after college, and having food out, when I've already cooked for the family. Or he'll say he's going out, then not going out, and then wanting food when he comes back in which I hadn't planned for. The number of times we've had to phone him (he never picks up) because we don't know where he is after college is ridiculous.

He also can't get himself up on time. He has to be out of the house by 7.30 to get the bus, and even when woken by one of us in plenty of time, he takes so much time getting ready that he misses it at least once a week. DP has already left for work by the time the bus is due, so that's then down to me to either let him be late and get another bus (I can't bring myself to do that because he gets into trouble) or drive the 30 mins there and 30 mins back that it takes to get him there on time. That then puts my work behind and has, in the past, got me into trouble with my clients as I missed a deadline.

He has started smoking. He is actually denying this, and we have never a) seen him smoke or b) found cigarettes/a lighter in his room. BUT he always smells of it and ... there are sodding cigarette burns on the wall. So either he, or a ghost, is smoking in his room and then stubbing cigs out on the wall. I mean, seriously? We've decorated that room and he's burning the wall? Other than the obvious damage which is seriously annoying, we really really don't want him smoking. There is so much education on it these days, and the dangers of it are just scary.

My car got keyed a few months ago, and next door happen to have CCTV on the front. They showed me the footage, and it was DSS's group of friends INCLUDING DSS walking home after college. One of his friends did it, and he laughed along with them. I was absolutely gutted as, like with everything else, I worked hard for that car, and like to keep it nice. He has also spilt drinks inside the car itself, keeps his muddy football boots on or putting them on the seat instead of putting them in the plastic bag I give him, leaves wrappers and empty bottles lying around. So my car is an absolute state as well, and I can honestly say that none of the mess in it, at all, is mine.

Money is a bit tight at the moment, and this is the incident that has made me write this post. My partner has been unwell recently, so I had bought him a pack of lucozade from Costco (because that's what you drink when you're ill haha) and this morning there were none in the fridge. I asked DSS whether he'd been drinking them and he said "not exactly" and laughed. I asked what that meant, and he said he'd been taking them to college and selling them for £1 each (they don't sell energy drinks there anymore). I was absolutely fuming at this, because we don't have much money ourselves (our own fault for doing up the house, but we can handle it so long as we budget) and yet he's taking things that I've paid for, and making a profit out of them? I was absolutely gobsmacked!

DP disciplines him by taking away his X Box, but this doesn't work because he will either play at a friend's house after college without asking for permission to go, and he has one at his mum's when he goes there anyway. DP also says he won't get any pocket money unless he tidies up and is respectful, but he doesn't care, as his mum and grandparents both give him money weekly, so what we give him makes no odds. He does no chores around the house, won't even wash a dish or tidy his own bedroom. There's nothing DP can do that will make a difference. We are both nagging constantly and I hate that, but what we can we do? We can't just leave things the way they are, surely. We're not asking him to be a slave for us, just to look after things and do the dishes on occasion, maybe.

Don't get me wrong, I love my partner to absolute bits, hence why I'm still here, but the problem is that he's not here a lot of the time. And that's not his fault. We both work so so hard to have a nice house and nice things, but it feels like DSS is just working against us all the time to spoil things and make things difficult.

It's so weird though because when things are good, we all get on well and have a laugh. I can't stress enough that I DON'T dislike DSS, and I honestly do my absolute hardest to make sure he has everything he needs, that he gets help when he needs it with college work, that we go on nice trips at weekends etc, but there are just all of these incidents, and damage being done, and problems. I know all families have problems, but what I've said is the tip of the iceberg. I can't say some things because they're just too obvious, but I can't live like this, wondering what's going to get wrecked next. I would totally expect this if he was a toddler, but he's not!

What the hell can I do? I am actually thinking about moving out (and hoping to goodness DP will still speak to me) until DSS goes to university. Would that be a horrific thing to do? I'm just not enjoying life at the moment, and I don't see any other way. DP is at the end of his tether with it as well, as he doesn't want to come home from work to find the house (sometimes literally) smashed up, or pay to replace things we've only just bought.. and I don't want to leave him to cope with this on his own.

I know people will say that I should have thought of that before going out with someone with a child, but I absolutely did! I was fully prepared to treat this young man like he was my own, and be either a mother figure, a sister, a friend - whatever worked. It's just that I would never have thought of this kind of thing from a 16yo that's all.

Please help me :(.

OP posts:
AnneKipanki · 06/11/2019 19:39

Bunnybaubles , I hope it is still all going well for you and your family .
Thank you for sharing that .

funinthesun19 · 06/11/2019 19:40

Life is too short to deal with the children others’ produced

^ This. Too much hassle!

leomama81 · 06/11/2019 19:48

He is a bully as the deliberate keying of your car reveals.. why else would the friend have done this, if not at his instigation or if he hadn't been led to believe that the DSS would approve?

I have to say I agree with this. Someone he was hanging around with wouldn't target his stepmother's car unless they were fairly certain the DSS would approve - either because there was some instigation by the DSS or because he regularly expresses his dislike of the OP.

AbsentmindedWoman · 06/11/2019 19:58

Trauma is at the root of his obnoxiousness. I feel very sorry for you and him.

Parental abandonment and attachment issues are deeply, deeply painful. I'd bet he can't even articulate feelings of rejection or hurt right now - that realisation will probably come later once he matures. At the moment it's all masked by anger/ detachment/ humour/ pretending everything's ok.

Get the kid into counselling or some sort of therapeutic programme like music therapy, if he doesn't want to talk. He really needs help, before he fucks up his own life.

Wakeupalready · 06/11/2019 20:04

Holy shit.
No this isn't all normal teenage behaviour running here, and I say that with DS16 and a DS13.
Some of it is kinda normal, My DS16 has done the 'Oh fuck' and hidden a spillage under a cushion - except it was a small dog vomit from his pet . He was doing a lot of washing, and disinfecting when I sniffed it out the next day, as the dog was not supposed to be on the couch. Both mine smash stuff, I have three mixed dinner sets - but that's clumsiness and rushing and they pick it up and apologise. And neither of mine are friends with the washing machine. Bad things often happen. Soccer boots aren't washable for example, when you put your entire kit bag in it.

But the throwing things through windows, the cigarettes on walls, the selling food items, the car incident, the deliberate behaviours - you have malice going on here, and that needs to be addressed. By your DP.
And the suggestions re no washing, no waking up, no lifts, no food with no notice, things on the floor into the bin every Sunday, no Wifi, no phone. I'd be doing all that first before I left, after your DP tells him that's how it will be.

And some of you have some scary ass teens if you think some of these things are normal, and it is okay to be proud of your home, and to want it kept nice within reason.

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/11/2019 20:15

Plenty of kids come from broken homes and turn out completely normal. It's not an excuse.

And you being an expert could, I assume work out why this is? No?

Some children are born (it's an incredibly persistent trait) more able to deal with change. Some children are just happier naturally and can approach new things faster. Some have been given loving boundaries after trauma that has to an extent healed them. Some 'broken homes' (delightful phrase BTW) are much healthier. Some children are raised in more happy, healthy wider environments. The age abandonment happens is incredibly important. Having witnessed violence is very very damaging. Bereavement is too. No idea if he saw these things but with an addicted DM, it's possible.

It's not an excuse but it can be a reason and a signpost to the work that needs to be done.

He's 16 and traumatised. What is the excuse for the posters on this thread who are calling a child names and saying he should be thrown out of his home? You're presumably grown up adults.

Drabarni · 06/11/2019 20:30

Plenty of kids come from broken homes and turn out completely normal. It's not an excuse.

Plenty don't. What's your point?
You mean we should just leave those that are harmed, then?

carly2803 · 06/11/2019 20:43

what a selfish little shithead.

you have the patience of a saint OP.

no washing, ironing, cooking for him etc do absolutely nothing for him.

worst case - send him his mums, thats your house too OP

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 06/11/2019 21:09

I am genuinely horrified at the level of vitriol people are prepared to throw at a young person who has not had a great home life.

How can you pretend to take the moral high ground and yet judge a child you have never met so harshly.

BlueJava · 06/11/2019 21:13

I have two 17 yo DS - this is absolutely not normal behaviour! It sounds like he has zero respect and does some things deliberately. I think I would have to move out - crux of the issue is that his father is the only one that can really parent him and he is often away. I dont think youre unreasonable at all OP.

Chocmallows · 06/11/2019 21:37

His behaviour reflects how he feels inside and he is targeting you the most, possibly as the one who is there the most with him. He may be young and damaged/stressed, but you are not his emotional punchbag, his parents should take on more responsibility.

Can you move out for a few weeks? At least have a week at a friend or relatives to decide where your boundaries lie? Or he stay with his DM for a week or so?

EwwwwGrossWTF · 06/11/2019 21:42

who has not had a great home life.

What the fuck?? That's fall assumption!
Why do you think he hasn't had a good home life? Are fathers not good enough as full time parents?

Fuck me! Hmm

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 06/11/2019 22:06

His father is out at work for long hours. His mother abandoned him. Who is there for him?

My DM died when I was a child so I know fathers can and do successfully bring up children. But, they do have to spend time with their children and engage with them. Why is it the SM bearing the brunt of parenting his son?

isadoradancing123 · 06/11/2019 22:11

He is a little shit, stop enabling him, never mind abandonment etc, sometime somplace people will stop making excuses for him, he is nearly an adult and its an insult to most 16 year olds for anyone to make excuses for him

Shooturlocalmethdealer · 06/11/2019 22:21

Sorry but if my sons had done a tenth of what your DSS has done I would have taken a belt to his bottom a long time ago or I would have told my DP to. He would have to go or I would leave. Sorry but he has no respect for you or his father.

Saddler · 06/11/2019 22:29

You're nuts if you think he's a nice lad he's taking the piss out of you and has no respect.

Shooturlocalmethdealer · 06/11/2019 22:33

Oh. And call the police anytime he damages your property.

Lunafortheloveogod · 06/11/2019 22:45

I was an arsehole of a teenager and still I managed not to be that bad.

Plates issue.. don’t cook for him, lock your plates away, leave him 1 plastic (so it can’t break) bowl, plate, fork, spoon and knife.. microwave safe so he can’t fuck them up. If he doesn’t wash them he’s fuck all to eat from.

He needs to be up n out by half 7 dp’s up or out by 6 he goes in checks he’s up. Duvet pulled off not a gentle wake up. If he doesn’t get up he’s outside when you leave for work. In his jammys or dressed.. that’s his issue not yours. He doesn’t get the privilege of a house key till he stops wrecking the house itself.

Pursue damages by friends with the police give names of all the other friends.

Get an extension cord for your room. Don’t give him chances to play shitty games like that, keep treat stuff in your room too.. lock the door if you need to.

Everything on the floor goes in the bin on Sunday.

Power cords away from consoles if you can’t get him out the house. Our tv also has a removable cord. Make sure he has no physical option of something else to do.

He needs a reality check at home before it’s a reality check in a cell.

If you can’t cope with him don’t be afraid to walk and make it clear to your dp that no one should have to put up with that in their own home.

I do agree the washing machine incident could be a genuine accident but the rest is just varying levels of arsehole to feral.

lakeswimmer · 06/11/2019 22:47

OP the one thing that leapt out of your comments for me is the hours that your DP works - out of the house for up to 13 hours per day. He's a single parent and I don't think that's OK - he's not around to parent his son, to look after him and to spend time with him. If he was living on his own with his son would he be working hours like that? He needs to prioritise his child who's already been though a difficult situation with his Mum.

I've got three teens and DH and I have chosen work which enables us to take them to activities and hobbies after school and college and to spend time with them. Can your DH reduce his hours or get work closer to home? I agree his behaviour is infuriating but your DP needs to step up.

LannieDuck · 06/11/2019 22:51

I agree with those saying your DP needs to prioritise his son over his job.

Tellmetruth4 · 06/11/2019 23:03

It sounds as if he has a lot of inner anger and is taking it out on you. I think counselling may help.

DeeCeeCherry · 06/11/2019 23:18

I couldn't be bothered with all that. It's why I stuck to dating men onlyy if their DCs were aged 18+ and weren't expected to live with me. I'm not interested.

In your shoes I'd talk to H 1st about his DS slapdash attitude & if things don't change yeah I'd be gone. Life's too short to have lazy, messy, annoyingly chaotic people around.

I think DSS wants you gone tho. In which case you can decide if its worth battling all this disruption so you can stay with his dad.

Your story made me tired reading it. You are a very patient person. I hope your H deals with this.

& with CCTV evidence of keying your car, you should've called police. DSS friends don't like or respect you because he doesn't & has told them so. That's why your car was keyed.

BlouseAndSkirt · 06/11/2019 23:23

OP: This thread has made me realise that, in trying to help and be a sort of mother figure that he's never had, I've actually unintentionally turned myself into a bit of a doormat

No, not doormat. Important to him, and therefore a danger.

I had a long term partner who had been left at a v young age by his Mum. As soon as we got really serious he started to self sabotage in a way that seemed to say “look what happened! Now you won’t want to be with me” “oh look I lost my job now we can’t get married” etc etc. Every time I reassured him that I was solid, something worse ‘happened ‘. Then I realised. He couldn’t afford to believe that someone he loved would stay, so he took control and made it a self fulfilling prophecy that they wouldn’t.

He’s had you move in and be nice. He sees a shiny new life being constructed around him....but he can’t allow himself to believe it is for real. He can’t afford to care. Too much to lose if he gets abandoned again. Or grows up and is expected to leave the nest.

Stop the punishments and the sanctions, since they aren’t working anyway (but leave him to deal with self generated problems like missing the bus). And get help.

GormlessLeech · 06/11/2019 23:24

Yeah, you need to stop providing childcare and domestic servicing for your boyfriend, you’re having the piss taken out of you. The boys parent needs to deal with him, the fact he has a job doesn’t meant he gets to opt out of his responsibilities or palm them off onto his girlfriend. You have zero legal protections, you are not the boys step mother, there’s no need for you to keep choosing this shit life, you can enjoy your relationship with your boyfriend and simply not drag his kid into it, any blathering about ‘but he has no one’ or whatever is the boys fathers responsibility. You get one life.

DeeCeeCherry · 06/11/2019 23:30

Also your H has opted out of parenting his child. Made me think of my previous LA job years ago - it was always men doing overtime (non-essential but they claimed it was) and in some cases then also going off to gym. They do it to get out of home life and responsibilities.
They get away with it because "I'm bringing the money in".

I feel sorry for your DSS having an absent father. But not to the point I'd put up with being the replacement parent and having all that hassle. No man is worth it.
& even if I could see into a crystal ball that DSS would be perfect in 5 years time, I still wouldn't want 5 years of my 1 life disrupted.

Do you ever go away on holiday OP? Maybe you should go away for a month, see if that would persuade your H to come home and actually be a father, and stop hiding behind work. If you're not there he will have to step up