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Help please guys re family court

195 replies

looondonn · 04/11/2019 15:08

Sorry to post here I just want as much help as possible

Have other threads on here re leaving an abusive man with my 7 week old daughter after he tried to kill me

Now live with my family in N Ireland

He has gone to family court and filed for me to attend a sitting in London in a few weeks

My daughter and I live away from there as we had to flee the abuse

Police investigation is on going can some one please help me with this

My solicitor was under the impression if he wanted to do anything he would have to apply to the family court in N Ireland
I do not want this evil man having unsupervised acesss as he has hurt me many times in front of her and put us both in hospital

What may happen next guys
Please please help
Please

Thanks all

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looondonn · 04/11/2019 16:19

Sorry just to mention he believes the police will not take case further
I believe they will as there are key witnesses etc to back me up

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ColdTattyWaitingForSummer · 04/11/2019 16:23

You could certainly apply to have proceedings moved to NI, or even delayed until the outcome of the police investigation. Failing that you could ask to appear by video link.
Hopefully someone will be along who can advise better though.
Hugs and Flowers x

looondonn · 04/11/2019 16:26

Thank you so much this is what I thought

Very unfair to expect this considering he tried to kill me and we both ended up in hospital
These are all lies according to him !!!!

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looondonn · 04/11/2019 16:42

I am not even sure if that is possible?
Anyone been in this position??

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P1nkHeartLovesCake · 04/11/2019 16:48

You need a better solicitor as by the sounds of it yours isn’t any good, they should be able to answer this for you and tell you if you can apply to move it to a NI court, video link etc. Proper legal advice is what you need.

His will get access of some kind though, he just will. It is very rare for a court to say no access at all will be given.

Boom45 · 04/11/2019 16:52

Get in touch with a local women's support charity, they will be knowledgeable women there that can answer your questions, support you and recomend a really good solicitor too probably who has experience of dealing with violent ex partners using the courts to continue their abuse.
Good luck and be prepared to fight. Family courts are not always great at protecting women from violent partners.

looondonn · 04/11/2019 16:53

Oh my god I'm petrified now

Totally petrified

This is insane he will never get unsupervised access I will go into hiding with her
He is not safe

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Stressedout10 · 04/11/2019 17:06

Whilst there is an ongoing child abuse/assault investigation/case with the police and or ss (especially if it was serious enough to hospitalised your poor dc) he is highly unlikely to get unsupervised visitation as long as you can prove that fact to the court and have a good lawyer.
I would suggest contacting the police force who are investigating and let them know what he is doing and chase them up about persecuting him.
Good luck Flowers

looondonn · 04/11/2019 17:12

Thank you guys

This is utter nonsense
How can I be expected to attend this

I know in my heart my girl is safe and that hopefully true sense will prevail but how scary
Do I need to see him that day?
Will he cross examine me?

He tried to kill me
There are 100s of incidents and now this
Plus we were hospitalised due to him
I fled thirty times and he ALEAYS found me
Now THIS !!!!!

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looondonn · 04/11/2019 17:12

Also what do I do next In order to ask for this to be heard in N Ireland?

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Stressedout10 · 04/11/2019 17:14

You will probably get some really good advice if you get mnhq to move this to legal

IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 04/11/2019 17:17

Agree with getting it moved to legal board.

OP do you have a restraining order out against him? If not- get one!

looondonn · 04/11/2019 17:17

Thanks I thought more people may come on here who have also been through the process

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looondonn · 04/11/2019 17:18

I don't have the money to get a restraining order sadly !!

Plus was told it may be too late now
What a mess

A lot is my fault for trying to cover up for him
He told me if I told anyone he would kill my father and sister

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GingersAreLush · 04/11/2019 17:19

I agree you need better legal advice as your solicitor should be able to answer all of these queries. For support for you try calling women’s aid Northern Ireland
028 9024 9041. Many abusers do get access to their children this is true. Many don’t. Many stop bothering completely when they realise their victim isn’t going to take their shit anymore. Best wishes to you OP and your baby.

GingersAreLush · 04/11/2019 17:25

I don’t know how the system in NI works as I was in England at the time but I didn’t need money for a non mol order, I was entitled to legal aid so free legal advice because there was domestic violence involved and social care assessed us instead of CAFCASS as it was considered too complicated for them. That was a good thing.

As I said though I don’t know how these things work in NI I imagine it’s similar but obviously don’t know the ins and outs.

Ferretyone · 04/11/2019 17:25

@looondonn

Do please, please get some proper legal advice from a lawyer who knows what s/he is actually doing and will work pro-actively and not simply let things happen. What is essential is that if hearings are set down you must attend. If it is possible to move them to NI then do so but [from other party's perspective] why should the court.

You hope that people who have been through it post but the likelihood of someone who has to juggle NI and England must be unlikely I'm afraid.

Please - if you possibly can - put away any thoughts of "going into hiding". If you did so after any court order you would be in the wrong and possibly liable for arrest! If you do so when the case is proceeding then the hearings will go ahead and will find against you most likely

looondonn · 04/11/2019 17:25

Thanks so much
My solicitor is off today

She has been very good so far and firmly said this should go ahead here and not to attend court in england
I just can't believe I have received an order today for me to attend court
It is insane but he is such a lier and so many will believe him

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looondonn · 04/11/2019 17:27

Insane !!

This system is not here to help the abused !!
He has got away with so much

There are records from multiple professionals thankfully

So if I do attend in England
Is this more fact finding or could the rule there and then that he gets time with my innocent child?

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IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 04/11/2019 17:45

OP you should be entitled to legal aid for a restraining order surely?

DonKeyshot · 04/11/2019 17:53

Don't panic and don't rush to imagine worst-case scenarios.

Your solicitor sounds as if she's on the ball and when you speak to her tomorrow? no doubt she will make the necessary application for the case to the heard in a Northern Irish court.

In any event, contact www.womensaidni.org/ so that you can be supported by a domestic violence counsellor who may help to allay many of your fears.

DonKeyshot · 04/11/2019 18:01

What has he applied for and when is the date of the hearing?

looondonn · 04/11/2019 18:14

Court case in three weeks
He applied for joint custody

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DonKeyshot · 04/11/2019 18:17

Did you name him as father on your dd's birth certificate? Are you married to him or is he an exdp?

looondonn · 04/11/2019 18:18

He is on birth c
Not married

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