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Help please guys re family court

195 replies

looondonn · 04/11/2019 15:08

Sorry to post here I just want as much help as possible

Have other threads on here re leaving an abusive man with my 7 week old daughter after he tried to kill me

Now live with my family in N Ireland

He has gone to family court and filed for me to attend a sitting in London in a few weeks

My daughter and I live away from there as we had to flee the abuse

Police investigation is on going can some one please help me with this

My solicitor was under the impression if he wanted to do anything he would have to apply to the family court in N Ireland
I do not want this evil man having unsupervised acesss as he has hurt me many times in front of her and put us both in hospital

What may happen next guys
Please please help
Please

Thanks all

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PicsInRed · 04/11/2019 18:23

On what basis has your solicitor stated that it shouldnt be heard in England?

Have you already file proceedings in NI?

Otherwise, your solicitor needs to proactively file for proceedings to be heard in NI, which will likely require a hearing in the court to which your ex has applied.

Is your solicitor legal aid?

looondonn · 04/11/2019 18:42

Solicitor is in my home town
I pay 150 per hour

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looondonn · 04/11/2019 19:01

My salary meant I could not get legal aid

I assumed I could because of DV
This man has ruined my life

He will not ruin my child's life
He used to say if I left him she would be born deformed

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Dowser · 04/11/2019 19:08

Join mothers unite uk against domestic abuse / violence on fb

You will get lots of support there
We’ve just had a big protest at the end of October in Parliament square in London against the injustice of the family court
We had speakers maralee McLean from America
Rachel Williams from don’t look back ( Rachel’s ex came round, beat her up and shot her)
Women’s aid gave their support
This was our first protest and the fight goes on
Another site on fb is
#thecourtsaid
These sites are set up by mothers in the same position
Good luck..sounds horrendous

looondonn · 04/11/2019 20:38

Fab ladies
Thank you

Will keep you posted

A scum bag who tired to kill me and injured my baby will not have unsupervised access
Not a chance
Will fight to the very end and just keep going
He accuses me of abduction !!!!!
Just too shocking really

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ItStartedWithAKiss241 · 04/11/2019 20:52

Does he know you are in Northern Island? Stupid question but if not you shouldn't ask for it to be moved there.
I’m assuming he does as you got the court papers? X

Queenie8 · 04/11/2019 21:06

Contact www.ncdv.org.uk they will help you, especially with the nonmol order.

Good luck and keep fighting 🤞🏻

looondonn · 04/11/2019 21:33

Yes the scum bag

So he is now accusing me of abduction
Saying I financially abused him as I did not pay the rent when I had to flee the apartment and saying I emotionally abused him by going to the police to report that he tried to kill me
He started a domestic violence perpetrator programme but was kicked off for victim blaming and fighting with the other perpetrators
But yet I am the one in the wrong here

My child is domicile in N Ireland for a period of two years now that is why my solicitor was certain the main route would be for him to apply to the court here and then at least she could support me
This is horrendous
I am never known such cruelty

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looondonn · 04/11/2019 21:38

This has helped me so much guys

Many thanks again xx

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Nonotmenori · 04/11/2019 21:57

Hello OP, I had a very similar situation to yours. I dint want to go into detail as I wouldn't be surprised if my abusive ex is on here sniffing around..,

Anyways, you do not have to attend court as you are no longer a resident of England and Wales. I'm guessing you're now habitually resident in NI? I would suggest you send a letter to the court stating this as they might look at issuing a warrant for your arrest ( I speak from experience) I would also state in this letter that as you're now living and habitually residents in NI that your ex must go through the courts in NI.

I would most certainly ensure the court is aware of the abuse you and your child have endured and how you are scared and living in fear. You also need to ensure the court withholds all details of your whereabouts. I.e. Home address etc as you are fearful of both yours and your child life.

looondonn · 04/11/2019 22:06

Thank you so much

Stupid question who do I address the letter to?

So it makes sense I live here my daughter has lived here for two years as we fled abuse

Thanks a lot

What else do I do to inform the court of abuse? Can my solicitor do that on my behalf?

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Nonotmenori · 04/11/2019 22:15

Let me come back to you tomorrow as I need to find all my paperwork, but your solicitor can send the letter on your behalf.

Nonotmenori · 04/11/2019 22:17

Meant to add make sure you keep everything in the letter factual and take out the emotion.

looondonn · 04/11/2019 22:20

Oh my gosh thank you

Been so upset all day
Your help has been great
I will also get in to my sol tomorrow

Many thanks
Have now started the application for a non mol order

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Nonotmenori · 04/11/2019 22:27

Honestly I know exactly how you're feeling right now. Do not worry yourself silly, easier said than done I know. I'll be back tomorrow evening take care of yourself and gather all documents

Doyoumind · 04/11/2019 22:29

You can call up the court and they should be able to answer some questions or point you in the right direction in terms of how to go about letting them know you can't attend. I have called the court direct a couple of times in the past and they were helpful.

I would also post in Legal Matters as there are solicitors on there who can better advise. If your ex has applied for joint custody he obviously hasn't had decent legal advice. He hasn't got a chance.

looondonn · 04/11/2019 22:31

Thank you so much
You guys helped me recognise the abuse
Helped me get the courage to leave
Helped me stay away forever

And now still continue to help

Lots of love this is much appreciated

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looondonn · 04/11/2019 22:39

Also - last time I saw him was 6 months ago
He harassed me and my family then for few months
Then he got arrested and had no direct contact since
Can I still apply for the non mol order now? Or too late ?? :(

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DonKeyshot · 04/11/2019 22:57

I would suggest you put any independent legal action you may intend to take on ice until you have spoken to your solicitor.

Although I am not familiar Northern Irish law, it's my understanding that your solicitor can ask for a stay of proceedings for up to six months which would give her opportunity to argue jurisdictional matters (if necessary) or for the police to conclude their ongoing investigation.

When did the police investigation commence and does it relate to an event that took place in Northern Ireland or did it occur elsewhere?

In any event, I suggest you hold off any application you may be considering for a non-mol as he will may use this as evidence that you are out to get him acting out of spite in order to discredit him.

In addition, if you apply for an ex parte emergency injunction against him a date will be set for a full hearing of the case usually within 28 days of the emegency order being granted and this will provide him with opportunity to "see you in court", which is not in your best interest at the present time.

DonKeyshot · 04/11/2019 23:08

It isn't necessarily too late for you to apply for a non-mol but I'm sure you can see that, having waited some 6 months? since he harassed you/your family, it may look as if you are acting vindictively because of his application to the family courts of England/Wales.

Also, as I've said, this will provide him with opportunity to see you in whatever court of law you make the application as you will need to be present to state your case just as he will need to be present to oppose it.

What are his financial circumstances? Has he got access to sufficient funds to pay for solicitors/barristers or will he be self-representing?

looondonn · 04/11/2019 23:13

Ok that is very interesting to hear !!!

Thank you
That does make sense
Majority of the incidents were in London
Some abroad and some in N Ireland
I hope to hear from my solicitor tomorrow
This has all just happened so quickly
Very scary situation and I do not trust the courts
He is a lier and a sociopath
Everyone who meets hjm thinks - what a gent
All his workmates feel so bad that he was abused by me !!!
Abused !!
Even though he tried to kill me
But I am the bad person for fleeing the flat after he tried to kill me - that makes me the abuser clearly

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MrsBertBibby · 04/11/2019 23:18

How long ago did you move to NI?

looondonn · 04/11/2019 23:19

22 months ago
Few days after I fled the flat when he put us both in hospital

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MrsBertBibby · 04/11/2019 23:24

OK, so how long after you left did he start these proceedings?

DonKeyshot · 04/11/2019 23:25

What police force is charged with investigating these incidents and when do you expect the investigation to conclude?

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