Help please guys re family court

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Sorry to post here I just want as much help as possible

Have other threads on here re leaving an abusive man with my 7 week old daughter after he tried to kill me

Now live with my family in N Ireland

He has gone to family court and filed for me to attend a sitting in London in a few weeks

My daughter and I live away from there as we had to flee the abuse

Police investigation is on going can some one please help me with this

My solicitor was under the impression if he wanted to do anything he would have to apply to the family court in N Ireland
I do not want this evil man having unsupervised acesss as he has hurt me many times in front of her and put us both in hospital

What may happen next guys
Please please help
Please

Thanks all

Absolutely
So true

Glad you are feeling better now, OP. I have been in the situation of panicking and worrying what the outcome would be. It's a horrible feeling but the reality is often better than what we imagine at the start and I'm sure it will be in your situation. It sounds like so much is in your favour here and against him. Remember that. Nothing is a foregone conclusion but he will have to work very hard to get what he wants.

Thank you
This has helped so much!!!!

Keep us updated OP.

I would also add that i found thr court administrativebpeiplecreally helpful in terms of the process.. I self repped on a maintenance case and with their guidance about what forms were needed (inclyding a change of venue) i got through it with minimal legal expenses. Your case is much more serious and complex but you can do a lot of the simple admin yourselfbwhivh helps with costs. Good luck

Thank you !!!
Just heard from solicitor and she will aim to get venue moved

Your solicitor should be aiming to the get the case in the English family court DISMISSED as it has no jurisdiction, i.e no right in law, to hear the case because you/the child are no longer domiciled in England.

Let him lose his court fees for this application. If the venue is moved the only penalty he'll suffer is having to travel to harass you appear in court.

Exactly what DonKay says ensure the case is dismissed as London does not have jurisdiction. Make him then find a lawyer in NI and take you to court there. If he does ensure supervised access is ok with you. Between the hours of 12 and four once a month. We shall see how often he will fly over to see the child. They get bored after 3-4 times......

Did you ask your solicitor to move the venue or did you ask her to apply for the case to be dismissed?

Thanks again you lovely people on here

So she is saying the same and double checking the exact procedure going forward with a colleague who currently works in England

The help on here has been so great

Let's see what happens next

Met police have to be involved now as he is claiming this case a abduction
And he wants me pursued for the rent I did not pay - after I left the flat the morning the scum bag tried to murder me
How is this man even going about this !???
Aghhhhhhh 🤬🤬🤬

Removal from one UK jurisdiction to another is not a criminal offence. Removal from the UK may be.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/37

Child Abduction Act 1984. All references are to removal from the UK

He is a mad man
Thank k you
I will fight this to the very end
Especially as I literally did nothing wrong

I even tried to protect him so many times to make sure he would not get in trouble
Been a fool

Ah the good old abduction allegation. Brings back fond memories! lol honestly do not be worried about this at all. No court in the world will state you've abducted your child after looking at the violence you've received from this animal. I had a warrant out for my arrest and a port and airport alert all for little me 😂 the lengths some of these arseholes will go is unreal. Remember to keep factual, take out the emotion and blow him out the water the day you get to court. Trust me nothing is more satisfying than being in court and the judge seeing him for the lying arsehole he is. It's even more sweeter when he awards your costs to him!!!

Good luck I'll be rooting for you!

Yes indeed

That seems to be a common one ah she has abducted the child for no reason what so ever
She has ruined my life
Blah blah

He will pay for what he has done

And guys the help here was so so great as yesterday I was on a really bad place thinking what will be the outcome !

Thank you
He is on birth cert
Health visitor aware of everything as my colleagues contacted her out of concern
WA involved
Solas involved
Police involved
SS involved
GP involved as they wanted to sign me off sick due to ptsd

Psychotherapist involved long term as she had been trying to help me come up with an escape plan many times which I backed out of like an idiot

I want the case to be dismissed

If your baby was hospitalised as well as you, were any charges ever filed against him or reports made to social services? it sounds as if you have a lot of evidence to show that he is a risk.

As others have said, though, the court system in NI is different and so your first port of call should be seeking to have the English case dismissed.

As an aside, social care assessed us instead of CAFCASS as it was considered too complicated for them - social care will write the S7 if the children are open to them already or were within the previous three months, not because it’s too complicated for Cafcass. All Cafcass family court advisers are senior social workers who often have spent years in child protection. Sorry - just a bit nitpicky and not actually relevant to the OP as Cafcass only cover England and Wales.

Oh, and please don’t panic when you see people posting “he probably will get contact” - while the courts hold an assumption that a relationship with both parents is best for a child where it is safe for them, it certainly isn’t the “contact at all costs” scenario that some people say. If you have all the evidence you say you have, with your very young child being hospitalised due to his actions on top of DV towards you, I’d be surprised if his application gets very far. You just need to ensure your solicitor spells all of this out very clearly and you provide as much evidence as you can, in the event he applies to court in NI.

Yes
Great points
That is very true !!!

Met police have to be involved now as he is claiming this case a abduction
And he wants me pursued for the rent I did not pay

Where is this information coming from?

I was under the impression the Met were involved as you said they are conducting an ongoing investigation.

Being aware that FFJ regularly search this site I've sent you a dm suggesting you ask mumsnet to move your thead, OP. Everyone who's on it will be able to find you.

Sorry haven’t read the full thread, but just to say that the proceedings can and should be moved to wherever the resident parent is. Also, yes it is very rare that fathers are given zero contact, but that’s what happened in my case. This was due to extreme abuse towards me and the strong likelihood that he would also abuse dd in a similar way.

The proceedings can't be transferred from England and Wales to Northern Ireland! These are two distinct legal systems with their own courts, laws, and procedures. The English proceedings should be dismissed for want of jurisdiction, if the court is satisfied that it indeed lacks jurisdiction.

Thank you all

So hopefully that will happen

I will check in with my solicitor this morning

If you are willing to change solicitors try Anne Caldwell. She’s excellent.