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To wonder if other single women have this problem?

197 replies

SapphireSeptember · 02/11/2019 20:15

Or is it just me? Every time I say I'm going anywhere (gigs, on holiday, to LARP events, even shopping in the nearest big city) I have people say 'maybe you'll find a man!' I don't want a man, I'm perfectly happy on my own. I find it extra annoying when I'm going somewhere with a friend. Cos I'm totally going to ditch my friend for some random guy, aren't I? (The answer to that is a big fat 'hell no!')

Please tell me I'm not alone? I've been single for just over a year (after a 12 year relationship) and the idea of getting into another relationship fills me with dread.

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bluebeck · 04/11/2019 20:32

genuinely don’t know any single people that are single by choice

Eh? Confused Are you living in the 1950s? This is a rather odd comment. Unless your social circle is incredibly small?

CupanTaeiSiochain · 04/11/2019 20:54

@IcedPurple, ha ha, this is it in a nutshell my friend! Wine

''a mediocre man, I'll pass thanks''.

To the poster that thinks that people are just happier in a couple, I disagree that this is just a given. I think that that's what people adjust to. I've adjusted very well to being single. And I don't mean I've learned to live with it. It has made me braver. It's made me check in with myself, not seek somebody else's approval or opinion first. It's been very good for me. I don't know if I would have become the person I am if I'd been in an averagely good relationship, even if it might have been easier along the way.

It really depends. I read an article the other day ''I'm only awesome when I'm single'' and it struck a real chord.

Tubbymummy44 · 04/11/2019 20:54

I think they would, but I'm so damn happy being single and make that known! I have s lot of friends who are in unhappy relationships...I just say and this is why I'm single and loving life! 3 years on my own with my children and it's just fantastic!

CupanTaeiSiochain · 04/11/2019 21:00

My mother doesn't see any point to my going anywhere on my own either. I went to stay with a friend in Spain and then tagged on two days at the end in a nice hotel. I just wanted the peace and the luxury and yet my mother was BAFFLED. We had the same stupid conversation about four times where I just kept saying ''because i want to, because I'll enjoy it even though there's nobody there to SEE me enjoy myself ''

TooManyPaws · 04/11/2019 21:20

I'm in my late fifties, never been married or had children. I live very happily alone. My house, my car, my job, my money. I'm really not bothered about sitting like a dumping on the sofa with some boring old fart and watching TV. I like doing what I want to do, when I want to do it. I have friends, books to read, DIY to do (sooo unlike my haundless single aunt who couldn't change a light bulb and was amazed when I fitted a new loo seat for her), clubs to go to, dogs and cats to cuddle - and their love is unconditional. I love to spend Christmas by myself - me, a bottle of champagne and great food. No fights or trying not to get dragged into family feuds.

My last long time lover turned into a boring old man so I dumped him and had a fling with someone much younger. I used to like sailors as partners because, one, they were nearly all the men I met, two, there was something in common to talk about, and, three, they bloody went away just as they started to become annoying.

SummerPavillion · 04/11/2019 21:29

I've found my people!

I'm more myself now than I ever was in my 17 year relationship. Would never share a bed again, also I want my own bathroom. Maybe my own fridge... the longer I'm single the better it gets.

We're so lucky to be among the only women who have ever lived who can support ourselves (plus dc) under our own steam.

I'd like a bit of romance but I'd feel uncomfortable promising monogamy, and probably wouldn't want to live with a man again. A regular "Gentleman caller" - best of both worlds!

Eventually I might move in with a female friend, or even a few of us together

JonSnowIsALoser · 04/11/2019 22:10

I’ve been separated for over two years, and happier than I’ve been for a long time. It drives me nuts when I tell people - if they ask - that I’m never planning to get married again (I’m in my late 40s), and they give me a patronising look followed by “Oh, you surely don’t mean that...”

If I didn’t mean that I wouldn’t be bloody saying that. Learning from past mistakes is a wonderful thing.

Looking back, after two very long-term relationships, I’ve always been the happiest when I was romantically unattached. That sense of freedom and independence is absolutely priceless. Hardly anyone believes me though. I get more pitying looks.

I recommend this song, by the eternally awesome, still-rocking-like-a-boss-at-68 Chrissie Hynde, to all happy single women.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=nGEAEfl6oZg

JonSnowIsALoser · 04/11/2019 22:16

@SummerPavillion
You’re so right! Not only would I never get married again, but I’d never move in with a man either.

I’m an extremely monogamous person, who would never consider cheating, which sounds great, but I’ve realised it makes any relationship suffocating after some time, especially if the partner doesn’t meet my emotional needs. I’m fed up with lifelong commitment.

Bluerussian · 04/11/2019 23:05

Twomanypaws, I loved your post!

OP, I hope you are now in agreement with the posters on this thread - that your life on your own is fine, many would envy you. Good for you!

Wine&moreWine

Bigbadboss · 04/11/2019 23:31

All the time lately. I've even had guys messaging me asking me out, or asking me out at bars that just don't seem to understand the word no. Its really frustrating and bang out of order. I have 4 children one has a serious health issue that is time consuming. If he can be bothered Father has them 4 nights a month. Sometimes less. So when I have child free time I want to chill out and enjoy myself not be dealing with an overbearing man child.

Bluerussian · 04/11/2019 23:44

I agree Bigbadboss. However it's nice to have a ... special person....with whom to have some good times but is quite happy to go back to his or her house.

FlowersInThePot · 05/11/2019 07:10

I go on holiday on my own all over the place. I always get "Oo aren't you brave". Well, I'm police, so no, going on a coach trip to Europe is not brave surely? Yet the same people dont say this when I patrol a main city at night!!

Jack80 · 05/11/2019 07:58

I think it's a joke but be clear with people that you are happy single for now

lubeybooby · 05/11/2019 08:27

just say 'urgh, hope not'

mylifestory · 05/11/2019 09:04

Im on my own and have been a single a lot of my adult life, no marriage ever and no living with anyone. I do have a DD and its interesting to hear the views of other mums, mostly married ones from school. They think I'm,lucky, I can make any decision I want for DD without having to consult a husband. Some see men as a necessary evil to get what they want, the house, the kids, the car. But overall many say they envy me as i have a house, a kid and a business to run that's not a 9-5 job. What more could I want. Oh Yes, a man 😅

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madcatladyforever · 05/11/2019 12:35

Oh God no, the last thing I need is a man in my life.

I've had two husbands and numerous boyfriends and they've all fallen well below my expectations.

I'm 57 now and perfectly happy on my own - I don't want a man in my life. I have plenty of platonic boyfriends to go to events to if I so wish.

My single life is my best life. People are always setting me up with blokes at dinner parties and I'm so sick of it. It's well meant but not wanted and awkward. The last one sat and stared at me all evening as though I was a piece of cake and didn't have any conversation at all.

managedmis · 05/11/2019 12:38

What always gets me is that they think that you'll tell them all about it anyway - why would you?!

leomama81 · 05/11/2019 12:54

I'm definitely not happier in a couple. The day my life changed forever was when I had the epiphany that I'd never actually been as happy in a relationship as I am on my own. Sure, there are highs in relationships, but also a hell of a lot of lows/stifling times.

On my own I am more dynamic, freer, less compromising, more fun, able to spend time on my passions and my family and friends (and now my about to be born son).

A "gentleman caller" as a PP said - that is the best of both worlds and what I shall be going for in future! ☺️

SapphireSeptember · 05/11/2019 17:08

@Bluerussian Thanks for the wine! Smile

Totally agree with the idea of having 'gentleman callers' btw. Some sex, a bit of snuggling, and then back home they go, and I get to have my bed to myself (although I might have to hide my stuffed toys, that might put off some.) I have a huge unicorn plushie I called Shaun to snuggle up to on cold nights, at least he doesn't hog the duvet.

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UpfieldHatesWomen · 05/11/2019 18:53

I've had friends and colleagues ask me if I have anyone on the horizon and then when I say 'no' they've said 'Awwwww' (as the audience does at the sad part of a pantomime) 'you'll meet someone'. So, they bring up the topic of my singledom that I wasn't even thinking about and then pity me for it, it seems to be an exercise carried out wholly so they can feel smug. Some people just can't bear to be alone, I've known many women like this who break up with one boyfriend and then form a long-term relationship with the very next man they go to bed with, some random dude who they don't have much of a connection with but they force it until, I suppose through familiarity, being around each other becomes a habit or dependence. I can't remember which comedian mentioned that sometimes people think they're in a good relationship, but actually it's just the Netflix series they're watching that's good. I must admit I was a serial monogamist until I realised that I was desperately needy with bad boundaries due to childhood abuse and perhaps needed to sort that out before being with anyone else. I've spent several years alone now doing just that, and have come to realise that every relationship I've had has been awful, and I'm a much more well-rounded human being on my own. I'll be perfectly honest and admit I do get lonely sometimes, but when I compare the life I have now to the the abusive situations I was in before, being dragged down every day by someone else's miserable little ego, I know I'm much better off alone. I'm not playing the victim, I made bad choices because I didn't know any better and was foolishly naive and damaged, it is what it is. I'm older and wiser now, but the prospect of meeting someone actually scares me, as I associate being in a couple with being trapped and used. I like the idea of being in a happy equal relationship, but there would have to be so many requirements, I would have zero tolerance for any kind of crap (I've been on a few dates and each time saw too many red flags straight away, didn't even make further contact). I don't know if I could live with someone again, it has only ever been an utter hell having someone else around 24 hours a day, not only because of abusive behaviours, but not being able to have a bit of peace and quiet and get on with my own activities. I like the idea of love and maybe even a bit of romance, but I'm too much of a realist now to expect very much. I know I could find a man tomorrow if I wanted - not being arrogant, most women could - but at what cost? I know there are decent men out there, but I attract either losers or abusers most of the time. Then there are men who might be OK enough, but just really dull, or not intelligent enough, or not funny, or well, just not good enough for me. I'm not saying I'm the best catch, just... better than them. Unfortunately, when you're damaged from childhood abuse you just send out this creep sonar, which is annoying at a time when you feel like you've healed from all that. Despite having little interest in finding a partner, when I talk to men they sometimes point out they have a girlfriend as though the only reason I could possibly be talking to them is because I desperately want to get on their dad bod. It's always men I don't have the slightest interest in and have actually just been humouring in a conversation I have been finding incredibly dull, perhaps I fake it too well. Anyway! Whilst I may not be living on cloud nine all the time, the things that make me feel good are largely down to the space and peace that being single brings, and the time I have to do exactly what I want to do. Relationships have been like a drug addiction to me, something I've sacrificed other relationships and aspects my life for, only to get a high that was short-lived and essentially illusory, leaving me with nothing but lost time and depleted energy when they were finished.

UpfieldHatesWomen · 05/11/2019 19:00

Haha, perhaps I'll print that out so next time someone asks me why I'm single I can hand it to them in a lovely little handout, laminated so their tears of pity can roll right off. They can then put it on their telly as a reminder of how great their tedious little relationship is as they watch their next 70000 hours of Netflix.

Lifeisabeach09 · 05/11/2019 19:32

On my own I am more dynamic, freer, less compromising, more fun, able to spend time on my passions and my family and friends.

^^Completely agree. This is how I feel being single.

IceAndASlice123 · 05/11/2019 19:41

I know a woman who has four daughters ranging from 23-34. All of them but the 34 year old are settled down with kids. I have lost count of the amount of times I have heard 'Poor Christina! Still single and watching all her sister's settle down.' I am in the exact same position and get pitying looks but at least I don't have siblings who have all settled down. I have come to accept that people will always pity me, think I am incredibly lonely/a bit odd until I have met someone. It isn't right but it's how it is.

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