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Jeremy Corbyn

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salcombebabe · 30/10/2019 08:26

I see so many posters saying they won’t vote for Labour as they don’t like Jeremy Corbyn - why? If the Labour policies are good then why not vote for those rather than the leader?

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BIWitch · 30/10/2019 08:27

Well, you've put your finger on it when you say "if the Labour policies are good". So much of the stuff around Brexit has showed him lacking in leadership qualities, never mind clarity around policies to do with our exit from/remaining in the EU.

fotheringhay · 30/10/2019 08:29

I'm definitely voting Labour regardless of him - he won't be leader much longer I reckon

DippyAvocado · 30/10/2019 08:29

I think he's hopeless but still preferable to BJ so would vote Labour if I lived in a seat where Labour could win over the Tories.

Ladybirdman · 30/10/2019 08:29

Why do Labour not oust him then, if he's damaging their party?

Iwantacookie · 30/10/2019 08:30

Ladybird man I've thought the same thing

LeekMunchingSheepShagger · 30/10/2019 08:31

I'm not a massive Corbyn fan but he's a thousand times better than Boris (I recon my cat could do a better job than the tories) so I'm with you op.

Eleanorbellanor · 30/10/2019 08:32

Labour policies are not good at all. It’s punish the people who work hard for their money and give it to those who don’t. I can honestly say that among my circle of friends (age 25 ish), none will be voting labour and within my family, only one person will.

motueka03 · 30/10/2019 08:33

@salcombebabe yup, you are right. Their policies are good- he won’t be around for ever and the priority HAS to be to get the tories out by whatever means

Tellmetruth4 · 30/10/2019 08:34

If you want another decade of austerity vote Tory.

ChilledBee · 30/10/2019 08:34

A lot of us feel that his policies are more in line with where the Labour Party is meant to be. While it is upsetting that there are so many "Labour Supporters" who are essentially closer Tories, we feel it will be better in the long run to get rid of them now and recruit people who don't vote to replace them. These are largely people who don't vote because their lives wouldn't change regardless of what party they cited for because of the Centrist politics of the supposed Left wing parties in recent times.

fotheringhay · 30/10/2019 08:36

The party can't get rid of him!

Well, the MPs can't. The membership (who largely joined because of him) vote on it and would support him again.

It's a massive source of frustration.

ChilledBee · 30/10/2019 08:36

It’s punish the people who work hard for their money

I think the last 2 elections show that it is the Tories who wish to punish the working poor.

BIWitch · 30/10/2019 08:36

In general, the principles behind the Labour Party are good - but what their policies are/are going to be is less than clear.

Don't get me wrong - I'm a life-long Labour voter and, until recently, a member of the Labour Party as well. But with someone like JC at the helm I'm deeply concerned about where he's trying to take the party with regard to Brexit.

However, that leaves me with a bit of a dilemma about who to vote for.

And like @Ladybirdman asks, I have no idea why there hasn't been a move within Labour to remove him. He's so deeply unpopular with the electorate surely they must realise it's going to be a very hard job to get people to vote Labour while he's the leader?

KennDodd · 30/10/2019 08:36

Yanbu
I really wish he'd stand down. I expect he'll give this absolutely crucial election to the Tories and only after that he'll stand down.

SellmeyourMLMcrap · 30/10/2019 08:37

It's madness if you ask me. Labour are NOT going to win a majority at the election, they could be biggest party (highly unlikely) but pretty much zero chance of a majority. With them being by far most likely to be 2nd party then Corbyn would need to stand down for any minority Government to be formed around the Labour party. Apart from a Tory majority this is the most likely election outcome imo.

Usernumbers1234 · 30/10/2019 08:37

They can’t oust him because of his support from Momentum who are pushing the party further left. That’s getting new members into labour and they won’t remove him. And if we elect him it will be taken as further validation of some of their lunatic left wing policies and once in power they will go even further left. I’d vote for them if they had removed him and his gang from the top, but not whilst he remains. He’s genuinely dangerous to the future of the UK, now is not the time to unleash a student socialist as our leader.

ChilledBee · 30/10/2019 08:39

I think where Labour stand on Brexit is quite clear.

Leflic · 30/10/2019 08:40

I was listening to a Labour MP on Radio 4 yesterday. Their policy on Brexit is to renegioate they’re own deal and let the people vote on that in the summer. Right. So to totally in their interests to renegotiate an expensive“ not really out deal” then presumably people will have the choice of stay or accept Brexit lite. And that’s the best they can come up with after 3 years.

fotheringhay · 30/10/2019 08:43

If JC resigned and Kier Starmer took over, Labour would have a pretty good chance in December I think

Youngatheart00 · 30/10/2019 08:45

He’s an egomaniac and his policies are rooted in far left socialism which has been proven not to work.

LMG101 · 30/10/2019 08:46

The only media coverage Corbyn gets is smear tactics. Is it any wonder most people have a negative opinion. The establishment do not want change, they want business as usual. Corbyn wants to tax rich people, re-nationalise our transport infrastructure rather than let fat cats get crooked contracts whilst pushing prices up. The rich do not want to pay their way and Corbyn will try to get them to pay their way. So of course the BBC and media networks smear him. If the UK was a democracy the BBC would have been shut down now for being so biased. Rupert Murdoch runs half our television and press networks and of course he doesn't want Labour to win. The people who own our media are multi-billionaires who do not give a damn about ordinary people so of course the masses fall for their propaganda. Why do people fall for it? The constant use of social media and smart phones doesn't help either. Keeps people sedated and ill-informed.

ChilledBee · 30/10/2019 08:47

@leflic

That wouldn't work because a sizeable number of labour supporters voted to leave and another group strongly believe in democracy and are therefore against any sort of 2nd vote. They'd only be slightly appeased by the negotiation of a better deal in terms of equality and protection of rights and a 2nd public vote for either that or to stay.

Justanotherlurker · 30/10/2019 08:49

When you look at the shit show that was the recent Labour conference.

Some of the policies are not even 'good' they are ill informed idpol shite, people are stepping away from that now.

Plus this Corbyn is only the tip of the iceberg, the people pulling his strings will put someone even worse in power if and when they get rid of Corbyn. They have a front bench of incompetent idiots and with soviet apoligist milne in the background the Labour policies are somewhat tainted.

MustardScreams · 30/10/2019 08:50

Because people read right-wing media and they are owned by the people that benefit most from a Tory government.

fotheringhay · 30/10/2019 08:52

Justanotherlurker who is this "someone even worse"? They'd have to be a current MP - who's worse? It can only be an improvement surely