How are you voting in December?

[MaMaMaMySharona]

Apologies if there’s already a thread on this - I did look and couldn’t find one.

So now it’s been confirmed that we’re having a GE in December, how are you voting? And what are your predictions on the results?

I’ve seen quite a few posts on here over the past couple months from people saying they wouldn’t vote now as they are politically homeless - wondering if these people still feel that way?

I’m voting labour - albeit in a very safe Tory area (so feel very much as though my vote doesn’t count). Reasons being I would never vote Tory and I don’t like a lot of what the Lim Dems have said recently. I also couldn’t bring myself not to vote at all.

@JenniferM1989 and where does that budget come from? Scotland funds are in a bad way, The Scottish Government is partly funded by the UK government block grant.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/21/scotland-2018-deficit-higher-than-uk-as-a-whole-last-year

What I don't understand is why don't Tory voters don't feel the need to look after the less fortunate?

The NHS
The disabled
Social Care
We have people eating from food banks
Unemployment figures are apparently so low that there is 4 jobs to every person. The figure is that low it's in danger of exposing the lie.

Now I don't need the things above we have private health care and are lucky enough to have enough money to be very comfortable. We pay our "Low skilled" an I hate thats fraze more than minimum wage and we give increases when we can because we value our staff and it keeps moral high.

But don't people feel like they should help and look after the less fortunate?

But don't people feel like they should help and look after the less fortunate?

Help towards yes. Work more and harder to pay even more taxes, no.

But don't people feel like they should help and look after the less fortunate?

Yes absolutely. But i believe I should do that by paying tax.

Work more and harder to pay even more taxes, no.

Work more than who, or in what way?

How do you work 'harder'?

How does working harder mean you pay more tax?

I've looked at the online calculator as to how much income tax I'd pay under Labour policies, and it's about £200pa more. I think I can manage that.

I'm surprised at the amount of voting for individuals over party policy. Surely whatever one might think about JC personally, a Conservative government would be demonstrably worse?

Yes absolutely. But i believe I should do that by paying tax

The Tory approach to charging, spending and administering taxes has lead to the actual deaths of vulnerable people.

That doesn't bother you?

(Corbyn) is no friend to us Jews and we are the ones who know

The thing is, @Answerthequestion, if you were part of any other group your definition of prejudice and discrimination would usually be accepted without quibble on MN, on the basis that you're in a position to know

But you're Jewish, so all too often on here you'll be expected to accept others' definitions instead and to hear any dissent condemned as right wing slurs

Working hard to pay more tax????

People of low skilled jobs work incredibly hard a lot of the time way more physically demanding roll than that of a more skilled person.

An sometimes it's not that these people are unskilled by choice. A lot have no way of ever making a better life for them selfs. But that doesn't mean they don't work hard. Employers normally never value them either!

I'm guessing that this "helping" is of the "thoughts and prayers" variety rather than the "it's important for me to be paying tax to fund funding services properly and ensure that people don't have to rely on foodbanks or go to school without breakfast" variety. After all then there mightn't be any scope for month long holidays for those hard hard workers!

I will be voting Conservative, we live in one of the safest Conservative seats in the country.

At least 3 family members are changing from being life long Labour voters to Conservative in order to get Brexit done.

I don't think many of you understand the anger in the regions about Brexit not having been delivered and the way Parliament has blocked it.

I think this election should finally show that the majority of people in the UK do want to leave the EU and that the result of the first referendum should be implemented, before even considering a second.

An what about disabled people? Should be just keep killing them off? Are the allowed no quality of life because they can't contribute?

Labour.

Always have done, like my MP, agree with most of their policies.

Not sure Corbyn is a good leader, he's just not cut out for it but I don't get the hate for him.

Ok so he's uncharismatic, indecisive and a bit ineffectual but Johnson is a lying, self serving, risk to democracy!

I don't think many of you understand the anger in the regions about Brexit not having been delivered and the way Parliament has blocked it.

I understand. I just think based on all the evidence that Brexit is a huge mistake.

Help towards yes. Work more and harder to pay even more taxes, no.

So what does your 'help' look like? Putting a few tins in the collection box for the food bank when you do your weekly shop?

Bibidy

This will be the most difficult vote I've ever placed.

I feel like I can't vote for who I would usually vote for - Labour/Lib Dem - due to Brexit, but then I don't want to vote Tory because I don't support their policies on domestic issues.

What do you do?!?!

This is why we should have 2 votes - one on brexit and the other on the government.

I'm a disabled person who supports Tory. Utter nonsense that they are "killing" disabled people.

Every party has had policies that negatively affect some (not all) disabled people, and policies that negatively affect some (not all) non-disabled people.

Get a grip.

Lib Dem.

as for the NHS, the SNP in Scotland are responsible for the NHS here. My former SNP voting friends are no longer voting SNP as many of them work in the NHS.

So not a Tory thing either.

So what does your 'help' look like? Putting a few tins in the collection box for the food bank when you do your weekly shop?

It looks like the thousands of pounds monthly that DH and I already pay in tax. I don’t begrudge that at all. I begrudge people saying we need more from you yet again.

Conservative.

You're in danger of bringing com on sense into it, username2020

To read some comments on MN you'd think "the rich" make no contribution at all. I won't bother linking just what the top earning 10% pay yet again, but it's worth remembering that it's not always what's taken in that's the issue ... it's what it's spent on

Address the criminal levels of waste, the ceaseless vanity projects and the accountability issues within just about anything funded by the taxpayer and we might actually find there's plenty of money for all

mylifenow27
My relative is disabled and a wheelchair user .
She could work in an office type job . She appears never to have been under pressure to work and has never worked .
She has a disabled adapted allotment and used to do voluntary work in a childcare setting .
She has a weekly private massage , she shops at marks and Spencer , she has a cleaner . She has an amazing car in motobility scheme . She has a lovely adapted home ( the council regularly upgrade it ) with a garden. She has two bedrooms but doesn’t pay bedroom tax as a relative visits regularly to support her .
I agree that she should be supported as a more vulnerable member ..
I understand that the tories are supposed to dislike disabled people as you say but in my relatives reality she is very well supported with a good home , car and lifestyle . I posted this for balance as not all policies do what you say .

username2020 agreed !

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg
Help is paid by tax
.
People don’t just put a few tins in a collection !
My dh paid 40% of his wages every single month for years and years in a high stress public service job .
Don’t be little what people do please by assuming it is the odd tin .