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A missing 15 year old girl was spotted in videos hosted by Pornhub. Those of you who are “ok” with porn - are you “ok” with this?

The sentence the man involved in making the videos is for another thread, but is shocking.

P,S, I must be very lucky as I seem to have kept missing all these videos of choking and slapping and people being urinated on etc)

Me three.

Me three.

Really you missed slapping? It’s fairly commonplace

Did you also miss the misogyny as well? ‘teen slut gets it in both holes’, ‘fucking nympho step sister’, ‘firm tit redhead gets her ass destroyed’.

Did you miss the aggression and the disrespect? Did you miss the fact none of these women have names they’re just labelled by body parts and insults?

The first time I went on YouPorn (I won’t go into why), the very first video I was confronted with (this was with no user history - nothing), and the first thing I watched was something like, “Dad breaks teen daughter..,” Like millions of women, I was abused as a child over many years by a male relative and there were details in this particular video that I found extremely disturbing and triggering. I’m in my 40s now and had thought I was ok. It turned out I wasn’t. It didn’t matter that it wasn’t real. It was like a slap in the face that anyone could think it’s ok to make “entertainment” out of something that is actual reality for many young women, every day across the world. It’s the ultimate insult to survivors of sexual abuse. Why are these videos not banned? When these “actors” are making these videos do they not stop to think that they’re glamorising and pandering to the paedophile mentality and the abuse that so many women have girls have to endure in real life? What actually goes through their minds? Do they have any integrity or humanity at all?
I’m so glad internet porn wasn’t available to my abuser back in the 70s/ 80s because I can only imagine.

Really you missed slapping? It’s fairly commonplace

Clearly not that commonplace as I've never seen it and I've watched a lot of porn.
But then I would never deliberately search for anything like that.

Did you also miss the misogyny as well? ‘teen slut gets it in both holes’, ‘fucking nympho step sister’, ‘firm tit redhead gets her ass destroyed’

I have seen titles like that.
I would never watch them and don't agree with them as I have said.

You realise there is also a great deal of videos the other way too, depicting humiliation and aggression from women to men also?
I don't watch or agree with those either but they are there.

Did you miss the aggression and the disrespect? Did you miss the fact none of these women have names they’re just labelled by body parts and insults?

Did you miss the plethora of non aggressive, respectful, 'normal' videos in addition to all that?

You are so very confident on what all the videos are, knowing all the titles it seems like you must have quite the appetite for porn so I find it really odd you've never seen the 'normal' stuff.

Or are you just basing your opinion on the videos on what you perceive and read?

The first time I went on YouPorn (I won’t go into why), the very first video I was confronted with (this was with no user history - nothing), and the first thing I watched was something like, “Dad breaks teen daughter..I was abused as a child..there were details in this particular video that I found extremely disturbing and triggering...It’s the ultimate insult to survivors of sexual abuse. Why are these videos not banned? When these “actors” are making these videos do they not stop to think that they’re glamorising and pandering to the paedophile mentality and the abuse that so many women have girls have to endure in real life?

I completely agree.

But these horrific videos, which I completely agree should be banned and are damaging are not what is exclusively found in porn.

There is a great deal of unsavory stuff available on youporn and the like that shouldn't be there.

But there is also whether you choose to believe it or not plenty of porn that is non violent and depicts normal consensual sex.

I think it's very wrong to come out with sweeping statements about 95% being violent and pissing and hitting etc.

If you are into that sort of thing then yes it's easily found but a large proportion of porn users aren't going to watching anytbjng like that.

Name a U.K. industry that abuses and exploits women to the extent of prostitution

I don't know of the UK, but this is a reality for almost all tea plantations, including those under certification where (young) women are forced to have sex with the management in return for money/food/home repairs etc, many then dying of AIDS as a result.

All it requires is a cursory glance on YouPorn/Pornhub/Whatever. They’re all like that.

I have seen titles like that. I would never watch them and don't agree with them as I have said.

A sample from today’s front page:

‘Drunk teen anal insertion’ with a bottle being inserted in her arse.
‘Crowd fuck schoolgirl triple penetration’
‘Brother and sister wrestle and fuck’
‘My stepdad makes me a mommy’

I don't know of the UK

So the answer is no.

But there is also whether you choose to believe it or not plenty of porn that is non violent and depicts normal consensual sex.

Prostitution isn’t normal sex.

All it requires is a cursory glance on YouPorn/Pornhub/Whatever. They’re all like that

I'm not disputing that they aren't there.
I know those videos are on there.
But there is a lot of 'normal' stuff too.
It's not all violence and incest and derogation.

I would like to see greater regulation and videos depicting violence etc removed because they are damaging.

I don't think the answer is an outright ban on porn.

I don't know of the UK
So the answer is no

I said this is true of the tea industry.
Something virtually everyone in the U.K. drinks massive amounts of.

I don't really see the relevance of 'UK' in your argument here.

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I'm another one giving up on this thread. No point when posts that didn't say or do anything wrong are removed by people who won't even attempt a justification.

And no, I haven't seen much in the way of slapping unless if you ment consensual spanking. Not that I am that interested in it, but I know it is there.

I would like to see greater regulation and videos depicting violence etc removed because they are damaging.

You have no idea how the internet or the sex industry works do you.

Prostitution isn’t normal sex

We are never going to agree on this but I do not believe that all the porn out there is non consensual.
At all.
If I did, I obviously without question would not watch it.

Non sequitur.

Porn = prostitution unless they’re genuine amateurs and then you have the issue of whether it’s been uploaded consensually.

According to multiple sources the average age for a porn actress to die is 37. I will look out for reference.

You have no idea how the internet or the sex industry works do you

I know that porn has always been a thing and there will always be demand whether you like it or not.

I suspect that an outright ban would endanger women and the answer is to regulate better.

I agree that some of the content is damaging and should not be there.

Unlike you I do not for one minute believe that all the females in porn are abused and non consenting.

I think the core issue is sexism, old fashioned views on what a woman should be like and the absolute conviction that all pornstars/pole dancers/sex line workers etc must be abused or coerced but the men obviously aren't.

That is my view.

I know you don't agree, that's fine.

An outright ban on porn - do you not know how ludicrous you sound?

I haven’t ever said all women in porn are abused or non consenting, but there’s a lot of it about.

The core issue is sexual degradation of women which has always existed and will always exist as long as women submit to it.

An outright ban on porn - do you not know how ludicrous you sound?
Have you read the whole thread...?
Pretty much all the anti porn posters are calling for an outright ban on porn!

I haven’t ever said all women in porn are abused or non consenting, but there’s a lot of it about

Definately not the impression I got with the whole porn = prostitution

The core issue is sexual degradation of women which has always existed and will always exist as long as women submit to it

That is a big problem but a far bigger oroblem is the overall disrespect and sexist values which are found in many many other places than porn

Unlike you I do not for one minute believe that all the females in porn are abused and non consenting.

Im gonna guess that porn actresses fall into thee main catagorise.

Those that have been forced into it it, either litrially or through drugs, finances and/or manipulation.

Those that are mentally damaged.

Perfectly well adjusted women who go into it willingly. The majority of which will become mentally damaged through their work and so then fall into the second catagory.

Well adjusted willing participants entering and leaving the industry unscathed are going to be a very very small monitory. And based on the amount of porn being consumed I'm gonna guess they are not the only performers being viewed by 99% of consumers.

I’m aware of what has been said on the thread, but I am in discussion with you in particular frosted, and you appear to be taking a porn ban seriously.

Definately not the impression I got with the whole porn = prostitution

Porn is prostitution ie sex for money. It’s just that the prostitutes have sex with each other each other rather than the client - which has always been an aspect of prostitution.

You seem to be confusing prostitution with issues of abuse and consent.

“ That is a big problem but a far bigger oroblem is the overall disrespect and sexist values which are found in many many other places than porn”
Now this takes whatNoutery to a whole new level!

Of course there’s disrespect and sexist values in other places than porn . Give me strength!

But how is that argument a justification of porn? Do you think the “overall” situation is improved by porn?

Inteteresting isn’t it that just as women are achieving greater status in various areas of life, the degradation of women in porn has dramatically escalated. Hmm, I wonder why?

I find it ridiculous that people are trying to suggest it’s perfectly reasonable to belief the average porn user just goes on to watch scenes of “vanilla” consensual sex. Bollocks!!

And there is no way in hell you could go on PornHub or YouPorn and not be confronted with violent, degrading content and language at the first click.

If you watch porn, that’s up to you. Own it for what it is. But please stop with this disingenuous nonsense, based on the fact you have managed to find something that appears consensual. Tell that to the billions of teenage boys and men who are now under the impression that facials, anal, gagging and face slapping are to be expected as routine.

Gosh, I was just trying to make the point that sexism and disrespect is a massive problem that needs to be addressed in so many other areas and porn is by far the only source of it.

In any case, I think I am done with this nonsense now.
The rudeness, the insults, the hypocrisy.

The whole thread is vile.
You are attacking people who are no different to you, average, run of the mill parents, most of whom are not going to be watching the 'extreme' degrading stuff.

No one, absolutely no one, on here wasn't disgusted and appalled by the article in the OP.

Everyone said they thought the porn industry needed better and tighter regulation.

No one on here is in favour of abuse or 'orgasming to rape' or whatever nonsense the original quote was.

But yeah, I'm totally done.

“ The rudeness, the insults, the hypocrisy.“

Yep. Your attitudes are pretty grim. Not surprised you don’t want to repeat them......