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to feel like I really regret having kids

618 replies

SoFuckingTired · 29/10/2019 08:09

I know it's absolutely taboo. Millions of women would kill to have a family. But tbh, its just shit. I have a 4 year old who's being assessed for autism and a 2 year old that doesn't sleep.

I love both my children and would do anyt for them. But if I'm brutally honest, if I knew how shit and sleep deprived it was going to be, I wouldn't have done it.

So fucking tired. Every little thing is an effort. It's just shit.

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HeyNotInMyName · 29/10/2019 14:54

@angell84, I think there is regret about the child themselves and I agree about the fact they wouod probably feel it - because it’s personnal

And there is regretting having children, the experience you get and the struggle etc... I think it’s different. Because yes, children will be picking up how hard you are finding things (and that will apply to a lot of parents!) but not that it’s somehow their fault/them not being good enough etc....

I, for one, dint regret my children. They are amazing people (even better now that they are teenagers!).
But I do regret the missed opportunities, the struggles etc.... I haven’t found being a parent an easy task at all (PND and ANd to start with and then one issue after the other. Constant worries about x and y etc....). And people telling me how wonderful they find being a parent leaves me HmmConfused. Because that’s not what my experience has been.

Sillyshell · 29/10/2019 14:55

Another adoptive parent here, I think that's the worst part off it we worked so hard to get to this point and there are days were I wish we had just accepted that we couldn't have children and life would be so different.

It is the hardest, most relentless thing in the world

gwackywacky · 29/10/2019 14:55

@RatThink Haha the end of your post sounds like you got dragged away by The System before you could finishing speaking the truth!

I agree.

EntropyRising · 29/10/2019 14:57

@RatThink Haha the end of your post sounds like you got dragged away by The System before you could finishing speaking the truth!

Snort. Grin

formerbabe · 29/10/2019 14:58

A mother telling her children that she regrets having them, and being cruel to them - is different

Plenty of women regret becoming mothers and hate their lives and never tell anyone including their DC. They also love and care for them amazingly well.

angell84 · 29/10/2019 14:58

Can I ask the parents, what are the things that you feel you missed out on? What would you do if you could go back and be child free ?

I am child free right now ( I will possibly have one child in the future),
I don't feel that I am doing anything spectacularly amazing with my time, while I have it

Areyoufree · 29/10/2019 14:58

@angell84 I completely agree - telling a child you regret having them, would be horrendous. Sorry for my initial reaction - that was too strong. It's easy to get defensive about these topics, as they are so emotional! I'm sorry about what you went through too - I wasn't trying to make light of that, or negate it.

Samplesss · 29/10/2019 14:58

I love my DS, but if in an alternate universe I could go back I would make a different decision; as in choose to have no children not knowing them then I would some days. That said, before having him I was fortunate enough to have travelled, bought everything I wanted, and had an active social life- but it wasnt fulfilling and I was still unhappy. Ive found going back to work has really helped, and making sure that amongst the sometimes chaos I try and take time for myself, and we are definitely sticking with one. People might think they know how tough it will be, but as with everything the reality is often different.

angell84 · 29/10/2019 14:59

That is true @formerbabe.

mytinyfiredancers · 29/10/2019 15:05

I agree hindsight is a wonderful thing. I was desperate to start a family with DH, we were early 30s, had done our 'living' in our 20s, lots of holidays etc. We'd bought a lovely family home and were ready. We were the last of our friends to have children and it always looked not easy, but a nice life.

I don't regret my children. I adore them. But I find it harder than any of my peers have. Much, much harder even though I have two and several of my friends have three or four.

I had easy pregnancies but a truly
awful first birth. First baby was very high needs, had silent reflux, screamed constantly and also had additional medical issues which made her first 18m so so tough. I was made to feel neurotic and 'pfb' when I reality and hindsight I was actually being responsive to her needs - which were greater than the needs of babies of other people around me.

I became a SAHM out of choice with DH in happy agreement thinking I had the option to change my mind. In reality, I'd love to change my mind and return to work but as it turns out first baby (now 3 and a half) also has ASD and can't cope with even the 15 free hours of childcare we get for her let alone anything more. There's no way I could put her in full time childcare and I also feel like I owe the same time to my second child who is actually when she's not cutting teeth (argh!) a delight.

We had a second baby because we had a brief respite with first baby before we knew she has ASD when she seemed to be growing up and becoming much easier. Second baby is a breeze in comparison to the first, but obviously needs a lot of care and attention (now 14m). I'm stuck trying to juggle two children at home on my own as DH is out at work 7-7 Mon-Fri and I don't recognise my life or myself. I feel like a husk of a person. My eldest DD's social difficulties mean I can't even have a friend round for coffee and it be enjoyable. DH and I are both constantly exhausted, irritable and struggle to find the time or inclination to do anything just the two of us. I am fortunate that I have wonderful retired ILs who babysit for me if I really need a break. Sometimes I just go out in my car with a thermos coffee and my kindle for two hours just to get out of my house and away from my life for a bit. I crave time on my own.

I know it'll become easier once they're at school and I feel guilty for wishing time away. I also know some women would kill to have what I have and I feel horrible about that too.

A (childfree) family member recently had to re-home a pet who they'd had as rescue for three years, had spent huge amounts of painstaking time and money training and caring for. They found that the animal was affecting their life in a wholly negative way, they couldn't go out anywhere with it or without it and enjoy themselves because of how it behaved, they couldn't go on holiday, they found themselves feeling completely trapped by it. They rehomed after a lot of heartache and are back to their normal happy lives. I was having a conversation with them about it the other day and about our lives too and they jokingly said 'god you life sounds so bloody hard at the moment. At least we could send pet back!'

Yes, I thought. You could.

Would I turn back time and not have them? No, my heart aches at the thought of it. But I wish I'd have known what I know now before and my lowered my expectations.

I also think most people think 'ooh I want to have a baby!'. And then realise that these babies grow into children, then teenagers etc and 'having a baby' is really just the very start.

angell84 · 29/10/2019 15:06

@Samplesss that is true too. I am childfree, single, have enough money, travel alot.

I am still unhappy alot of the time.
I had a tough childhood with a bad family, so I often think of the past, it is hard for me to stay in the present, where my life is okay

This is to give an example that people who are single, and with alot of freedom, are unhappy aswell.

Just being human is being hard. Just being a woman is hard!

Well done to all of us for getting this far

ShipShapeandBristolFashion · 29/10/2019 15:35

I’m very grateful to my mum who always told me that she wouldn’t have kids if she had her time again. Don’t get me wrong, it’s painful to hear that, but I knew she didn’t mean anything against me personally - just the system and the relentlessness of motherhood. Growing up I never once heard “when you’re a mother...” and I cringe when I hear others say it to their daughters.

ShipShapeandBristolFashion · 29/10/2019 15:37

A (childfree) family member recently had to re-home a pet who they'd had as rescue for three years, had spent huge amounts of painstaking time and money training and caring for. They found that the animal was affecting their life in a wholly negative way, they couldn't go out anywhere with it or without it and enjoy themselves because of how it behaved, they couldn't go on holiday, they found themselves feeling completely trapped by it. They rehomed after a lot of heartache and are back to their normal happy lives. I was having a conversation with them about it the other day and about our lives too and they jokingly said 'god you life sounds so bloody hard at the moment. At least we could send pet back!' This makes me cringe. Not all of us without kids are this feckless. I’d do anything for my dog.

HeyNotInMyName · 29/10/2019 15:39

@angell84, you ask what I am missing from having children.

  • having time, time for myself, time to be myself. Not having to put someone else first, always.
  • a life that isn’t constantly dominated by other people. Time to work on my business/career, my way, at my own speed (and way quicker than what I have done so far).
  • money and less financial struggles
  • less worry altogether. Worries about dc fitting in, meltdowns, possible ASD diagnosis, dc being particularly clever so again do they fit in, are they stretched/happy etc....

Very simply the ability to not be MUM. Because, whether you like it or not, whether you still carve some time for yourself etc... You are MUM fist and foremost. So when decisions need to be made, they come first. How you spend your money, how you spend your time, how you decide what to do career wise etc.... your worries about about them first.

And they are amazing people. Both of them. But I am ,poking forward to the (not so long now) time when they will be independent an I will be able to have a lofe if my own AGAIN (and yes even though I do know they will always be there, at the very least in my thoughts. Everyday)

HeyNotInMyName · 29/10/2019 15:41

It’s not an issue about being happy or unhappy btw.
You shouldn’t try and have children to make you happy. That’s not their role.

It’s the weight of being a parent. And yes also the fact that being a mother is worse. Men get away with it and often change little of their daily life.

mytinyfiredancers · 29/10/2019 15:53

@ShipShapeandBristolFashion They weren't feckless honestly. It broke their hearts to give the dog up. They went to behaviourists, spent so much time and money on trying to help the poor animal. Unfortunately it turned out that living in a family house, being walked in public areas just was never going to work for it. He was re-homed to a small farm, where he could run free in the day without the triggers that made him so reactive. The dog is now genuinely happy and calm where he is and they keep in touch with his new owners.

The comparison just struck a chord with me. Any other decision to bring something into your life, you can change your mind. Children, not so much!

chippychip1 · 29/10/2019 15:56

It's much harder than I ever imagined & all consuming.
The lack of sleep, the stress of making sure I raise well adjusted people, helping educate them, anxiety & fear that if anything bad happened to one of them I'd never recover.

StylishMummy · 29/10/2019 16:20

I'm sorry but no matter how hard it is, I've absolutely never regretted my children. You sound unhappy and depressed and I'd suggest seeing your GP

OkayGoooouuuuuullllll · 29/10/2019 16:21

I only have one. I had pnd from the start. I am 100% better than I was. Now she is 2 and I am a SAHM. I love her with my whole being, but she is SUCH hard work. I struggle so badly with feeling so fucking unappreciated all of the time. I KNOW she's only 2, and she's supposed to be ungrateful because she doesn't understand but since I am alone with her most of the time (dh works away a lot), and I do everything for her and all she does is shout at me, screams and escapes the buggy but runs off when she's out, and doesn't eat the food I cook her. Its exhausting. Physically and mentally. I'm constantly saying 'that's not very kind, dd' and she does say sorry but it just makes me feel like shit. I miss the freedom of just grabbing your phone and keys and just GOING to the shop. Not laden with shit. Not worried about her behaviour. Not having to change a nappy when you get there. Just.. going.. and buying stuff.. without carrying someone round while they wail. And there are zero thanks for any of it.

OkayGoooouuuuuullllll · 29/10/2019 16:23

Oh yes and I have literally nobody to pick up the slack. Not my family, nor dh's - even though it was all 'ohhh we'll babysit whenever you like'. They never even popped round for a tea or asked how we were.

One of my friends has the most amazing family and support system and I am WILDLY jealous of her.

ShipShapeandBristolFashion · 29/10/2019 16:25

OkayGoooouuuuuullllll I appreciate what you’re saying, and know this is just a place to rant, but your child doesn’t have to appreciate what you’re doing or be thankful - especially when she’s young. It was your choice to create her, she didn’t ask you to.

InTropicalTrumpsLand · 29/10/2019 16:33

I'm really glad to see this thread. I'm childfree, but ever since I was little I knew I wanted children. Except, when I think about it, I'm filled with dread: sleepless nights, dealing with noise and sickness, their utter reliance on me... I have mental illness and I wouldn't be surprised if I have ASD, too, so the baby and toddler stages sound a nightmare. I don't even like other people's children, ffs, and I'm training for a demanding career so it would make a lot of sense to remain child free... except something in me says "you want children", so I wouldn't be surprised to be writing a thread like this a decade from now.

I have endometriosis; maybe the choice will be taken from me. I do agree with a PP that if I do have children, I'll either have one or twins, so I can just get out of the early years and not revisit them. Children are only vaguely interesting to me when they're of school age.

QueenofmyPrinces · 29/10/2019 16:34

It is very brave if you to admit to how you feel OP.

I’ve got two boys, a 5 year old and a 2 year old and some days life is very, very difficult and draining. It’s so relentless.

I don’t regret having them but I know my life would be a lot easier without them. I miss the life I had before the children came along and I sometimes feel jealous of the lives that child-free women/couples are able to live.

For the last three years, twice a year my DH has taken our eldest abroad, just the two of them. They go for a week, just a boys holiday and women I work with are always horrified that I “let him” take my child abroad without me being there. I obviously miss my son when he’s away but Good God I enjoy the break too.

As of next year he will be taking both boys away and I am counting down the months until I can be completely child free for a whole week. It will be bliss.

Parenting is hard, hard work and I don’t think any of us know how difficult it will be until it’s too late....

CantstandmLMs · 29/10/2019 16:40

I'm in introvert who always wanted children before I realised the realities. Luckily I become a nanny and over the years I've realised that is not the life I want. If I ever express this thought, people say but it's different with your own. Yes I won't experience that sort of love but I don't want to! I love the children I look after with all my heart (I have been in the same job 12 years! I know those children inside out. I love them so much!) but I need my own time, my own space so much. I have mental health issues and I don't think I'd be able to cope honestly. I work 60 hours with children and that is enough. I'm not even sure I could live with a partner. I have one and need large amounts of my own time.

Anyway, rambling. I just can sympathise with the OP. I am fortunate in that I didn't get pregnant when I was younger or when I was contemplating it. I am not adamant I don't want children. I may change my mind but I don't have a lot of time to do so tbh. If I accidentally got pregnant I'm not sure what I'd do though...

Dissimilitude · 29/10/2019 16:49

I don't regret having kids, but I certainly miss all the freedom I used to have. I also found the early years somewhat miserable, but now at 10 and 6 they are beginning to be self-sufficient for most daily stuff and I find that makes a big difference.

The day my youngest could get himself into a car and put his seatbelt on, was pretty much the best day of my life of the past decade.

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