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AIBU to be really pissed off with EU countries?

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FloatingObject · 14/10/2019 19:26

This isn;t a general Brexit debate, this is about the rights of foreign nationals NOT being reciprocated as it was claimed they would be.

You know it's serious when the Guardian finally bites the bullet and publishes what it doesn't want to publish. For reference: www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/14/britons-in-europe-face-citizens-rights-lottery-in-event-of-no-deal-brexit

I cannot believe that for settled status (which is free to apply for via an app) all you have to do is show proof of address and that you're not a criminal.

Meanwhile, here in France (for example), they're not taking applications, it'll cost over 200 quid, all by old-school paper, involving proof of income, etc etc.

I love this country (France), I'm not a huge earner but higher than average, I pay high taxes, I volunteer. I feel as if the countries of the EU (with the exception of Ireland, see article) are completely using us as pawns. I get that Brexit is a complete fucking mess that nobody wants. But that's not our fault. We're people who have made commitments to our host countries. We should be treated the same way EU nationals in the UK are being treated. I have a French friend in the UK who doesn't even give a crap about Brexit, she applied for her settled status and has moved on, her big thing is the climate change stuff. This isn't even on her radar. If the reverse was happening there'd be complete fucking outrage in the UK, and cries of "this is just despicable, these are peoples LIVES!!!!"

Sorry for the rant, but I just think although obviously given my situation (and also my politics) I am anti Brexit, I think this is a really poor show from EU countries, and I think the EU could have come up with a collective solution for British nationals already living in the EU, that would apply across the board. It's not their problem, but neither is it ours. /rant over

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RitaIsMyHero · 17/10/2019 14:45

Tone you take, not time you take - for clarity.

FrauFlamingo · 18/10/2019 17:43

If you chose to go and live in another country and pay tax there then perhaps you should be arguing for voting rights in that country instead. No taxation without representation, after all.

I currently have voting rights in the country I live in. I will lose them because of Brexit. That is precisely my point.

Anothernotherone · 18/10/2019 18:06

RitaIsMyHero you can't just make things up about posts which are on the thread in plain sight for everyone to look back at, and expect your fictional accusation to be believed.

I condemned what happened to Mackerz very clear terms. Of course she should mention it, report it to the police (as she did) and be angry. The fact that she was the victim in that case doesn't however mean Mackerz 's repeated stereotyping of all Easter Europeans in general in repeated posts isn't xenophobic or racist or that nobody is allowed to mention that too.

HeckyPeck · 18/10/2019 18:26

Its what the people voted for. Apparently they all knew what would happen when they voted leave.

Yep.

Mackerz · 22/10/2019 10:23

@Anothernotherone. You can’t just make up things from what another poster wrote. All clearly there for others to see, that you had extrapolated nonsense from my post.

You are being discussed on Twitter.

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