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Women were asked what they would do if men had to be in by 9

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Pieceofpurplesky · 07/10/2019 18:50

AIBU that the answers to this make me really sad

www.thepoke.co.uk/2018/10/01/women-imagine-life-men-9pm-curfew-eye-opener/2/

www.thepoke.co.uk/2018/10/01/women-imagine-life-men-9pm-curfew-eye-opener/2/

Sorry if this has been done

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Surfskatefamily · 07/10/2019 21:58

If there was a men curfew when I was younger I would not have be sexually assaulted. It wouldn't currently affect me as I'm a homebody and don't do out out anymore anyway.
I have been in numerous scary situation late at night, all have been men

perfectstorm · 07/10/2019 22:04

Men are far more likely to be out alone and vulnerable, though. Women are a damn sight more cautious and will take all sorts of precautions which men just don't consider, so as to put themselves in less risky situations. I'd never have walked home alone at 1am, but my husband did... and he was really brutally mugged. Opportunistic crime, and he was drunk and alone. Very few women I know would have done that, so they weren't there to be victimised.

I mean, more babies die in car seats in crashes than not, but that doesn't make car seats dangerous. It just reflects probability.

StoneofDestiny · 07/10/2019 22:04

I like the idea of ALL born males having a 9pm curfew though

Ridiculous and unjust idea. I want to go out with my husband at night, he wants to go out with his friends in the evening as do my brothers and sons and their friends. All law abiding men who should have no restrictions put on them - they are men, not criminals!

Cam77 · 07/10/2019 22:07

Historically, females have viewed strength and violence in males as a desirable trait. Even today, those in, for example, the military, and those strong violent men in the armed forces of any given nation, are fetishized just as much by women as by men. Of course, attitudes are always moving, but what was millions of years in the making can’t be undone in a few decades, no matter how much we wish it could be. What we today call civilization was 10,000 years in the making, and humanoid groups and societies had been around millions of years.

Longlongsummer · 07/10/2019 22:10

Men are far more likely to be attacked by strangers.

Women are more likely to be attacked by people they know (mostly in the home).

So a curfew would reduce the number of attacks against men but not necessarily women.

PancakeAndKeith · 07/10/2019 22:13

The problem we're talking about is with working class men.

No it isn’t. And how would you define ‘working class’? Level of education? Job? Income?

siring1 · 07/10/2019 22:20

All of those combined.

Duck90 · 07/10/2019 22:23

I would feel even less safe if the numbers of people walking around at night were halved.

The dangerous ones would still go out. And these people would be more confident their assaults won’t be interrupted by passers by.

PancakeAndKeith · 07/10/2019 22:24

And where would you draw the line? What level of education or job title is it you think stops men attacking women?
Do you think that you your son or husband would meet that level? What about their friend who didn’t?

siring1 · 07/10/2019 22:30

Statistical profiling could be used to identify the group who.pose the greatest risk.

My DH is well.paid and not voilent.

siring1 · 07/10/2019 22:32

I'm only thinking in a hypothetic way. So.no need to be offended.

Longlongsummer · 07/10/2019 22:38

I also,think thread misses the point.

If all victims were only ever women, then this thread would have a point. However this is not the case. Men are victims too.

PancakeAndKeith · 07/10/2019 22:38

But to think that male violence is confined to the working classes is dangerous thinking.

My friend is a teacher. When she was pregnant her midwife said to her ‘I won’t bother asking you about domestic violence because you are a teacher’. What if she had been suffering and that was her chance to say but because her and her partner were educated and of a certain class it was considered unnecessary.

Not the same situation I know, but male violence knows no class boundary.

Changestartsnow · 07/10/2019 22:40

siring1

It's only inoffensive to you because your DH is middle class.

ThatCurlyGirl · 07/10/2019 22:40

@MyGhastIsFlabbered

I'm usually very active on these threads but had to stop reading this one as found it too triggering on a particularly shit day.

But I wanted to just take a second to say I'm sorry you been through it too especially twice ThanksThanks

Changestartsnow · 07/10/2019 22:43

Also siring1 with that attitude we would also have to be putting on a curfew for any statistic who didn't meet a certain criteria.

Where does it start and end?

Who do we deem suitable for society?

Moonmelodies · 07/10/2019 22:47

Who would we call in to enforce such a curfew?

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 07/10/2019 22:49

f all victims were only ever women, then this thread would have a point. However this is not the case. Men are victims too

Yes, but they would be safe and sound in their house at 9pm

Polly111 · 07/10/2019 22:54

I think there’s so many people on here missing the point of the thread.

It’s not about actually implementing a curfew it’s about how much women have to modify their behaviour late at night to avoid attacks/ harassment and how liberating it would be to just be able to go out late on your own and not worry. It’s something that’s often not openly discussed and it’s pretty shocking in this so called age of equality that women are limited in this way.

Longlongsummer · 07/10/2019 22:54

They would be safe in their house but as most attacks are in the home it then doesn’t protect women.

Longlongsummer · 07/10/2019 22:55

Sorry most attacks on women I should have said.

Longlongsummer · 07/10/2019 22:56

@Polly111 yes but men are most at risk at night from being attacked. So even if they are not modifying their behaviour they really should be as they are way more vulnerable statistically.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 07/10/2019 23:01

They would be safe in their house but as most attacks are in the home it then doesn’t protect women

Women would be out having lovely midnight walks and popping up the pub

Longlongsummer · 07/10/2019 23:01

In fact, in many ways we should be educating ourselves and other women to be far more aware of choosing dodgy partners, seeing red flags, than telling them to be scared at night.

Obviously both are important. However I do feel there is a mysoginist aspect to telling women that ‘strangers’ at night sexually assaulting them is the main danger, so that most of us women do feel a heightened sense of fear at night and modify ourselves accordingly. So we are conditioning ourselves to feel that most danger is out there, and restricting our freedom.

Whereas most danger to us as women is partners, ex partners or family and within the home. And much of it repeat offenses. But we under report, under react often, under estimate the danger.

Changestartsnow · 07/10/2019 23:01

Just trying to Google some statistics but all websites quote something different.

How do you find actual true statistics?

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