Women were asked what they would do if men had to be in by 9

[Pieceofpurplesky]

AIBU that the answers to this make me really sad

www.thepoke.co.uk/2018/10/01/women-imagine-life-men-9pm-curfew-eye-opener/2/

www.thepoke.co.uk/2018/10/01/women-imagine-life-men-9pm-curfew-eye-opener/2/

Sorry if this has been done

Ahhh I see you prefer to selectively read

I wish men would stick up for women as much as women stick up for men.

Not one poster has actually answered what they would do if this hypothetical curfew existied

oh, you want a clearer answer?

Fight until that stupid curfew is removed and that nonsense stops?

JacquesHammer
tss tss, stop being so goady, you know you are better than that my dear.

Marvellous ** Hear hear

Sexual assaults would certainly drop as hetero males far outnumber lesbians

If you exclude fights about mating, probably be a relatively similar amount of fights etc as some women will now be top of the pile in terms of physicality and agression.

if you were talking about SOME women's activities, I couldn't disagree. My own activities are never been curtailed due to men, so don't talk on behalf of all women.

I was talking about some women, that's why I used the term women, as its the plural. As in more than one woman. I did not state that every single woman has had her activities curtailed. Although I'd take a guess that it's a very high percentage. It's great that you don't feel intimidated. But many women do.

Incidentally, my daughter and her friends first experienced harassment from adult men when they were 11 and were walking to the shop on a bright summer evening to buy ice cream. They only told me when it had happened two nights in a row, from the same car. Because they were afraid that I'd stop them walking in the evenings on their own. And guess what, they were right, I did.

I've been pondering this idea since I saw this thread earlier & have come to the conclusion that I wouldn't actually change my behaviour at all because I wouldn't trust abusive men not to ignore the curfew & go out while all the men who might otherwise come to my aid would respect it & stay inside.

So as this hypothetical (I can only assume some posters don’t understand what that word means) how about we go zero tolerance on men who sexually harass women.

So the guy who sexually harassed my then 12 year old and her friend on a train on more than one occasion have their season ticket revoked. Or aren’t allowed to travel on the trains when they have access to young girls?

Zero tolerance at work places for low level harassment up.

Zero tolerance in bars and clubs.

All these good men, rather than excusing their mates with “it’s just banter”, call it out every single time and don’t fucking associate with twats.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7228115/Gang-teenage-girls-film-randomly-attacking-female-strangers-Philadelphia-street.html

I like the zero tolerance idea. And removing season tickets - hit them in the wallet.

Isabelle careful as some posters don't want us casting aspersions about such gentlemen

Yes girls can be as if not more viscous as men. That's not what this thread is about. But you know that.

curfew would change everything indeed

and I can't be bothered to find the examples I was actually thinking about, but people can use google as well as I can

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz

what I know is that if I answer, "nothing" to what would you change, I am being accused of being goady.
Even if I wouldn't feel any more or any less safe. But hey, some posters like to rant online, probably because they are quiet as a mouse in the real world. If that helps, why not.

There’s a surprise..... “evidence” from the Daily Fail.

I’m really sorry certain posters are either so mindnumbingly stupid they don’t understand the thread or are a handmaiden.

What a miserable fucking existence.

I see the bitter man haters issue has (inevitably) been raised. I'm not a man hater at all. I have a husband and a son. I have a brother and three BILs who I think the world of. I have a large number of male colleagues who I feel very comfortable and safe with (and one or two who I wouldn't want to be alone with). But strangers? They're maybe fine, but I'm not taking the risk of finding out that they're not. If that hurts their feelings, the problem is all theirs. I don't owe them anything.

I love absolutely love dogs but I wouldn't go petting a strange one just in case it wasn't as cute as it looks. Same logic.

I think you're right Jacques. It's just a fundamental failure of basic English comprehension, not knowing what the word "hypothetical" means.

Assuming the hypothetical situation included miraculously keeping the nasty men inside even when in reality they're exactly the sort of men who would break the rules... I dunno, maybe you could put electronic tags on them or something. Those into dystopian fiction could maybe even go for some sort of Vox style set-up, though personally I wouldn't go for that because NAMALT, just some sort of tracking device to keep them where they were supposed to be.

Well, it would avoid the situation I encountered as a student.

Serial rapist on the loose. My male friend walked me 3/4 of the way home, wasn't that worried about the rest of the way, well lit, very busy street. Except there was a bunch of lairy drunken blokes (yes, I know women sometimes get drunk and lairy - but not in the same numbers, and the MoJ figures for numbers in prison by sex bear me out on this one). Then I got white knighted - to be honest, he set my spidey senses off worse than the drunks, but all that wretched female socialisation kicked in: here was someone offering to be nice, and there clearly was genuine danger up ahead.

Of course the spidey senses were spot on. Thank god for some swift talking and a pair of trainers rather than high heels...

But of course somehow I'd have been equally at risk from women...

Nope. The statistics just don't hold out on that one. 90% of violence against the person and 99% of sexual crimes are committed by... wait for it, wait for it, this is going to be a totally shocking surprise for some of you... MEN.

NAMALT, and all that shit. But enough of them to cause a real fucking problem in society.

And of course I don't really wish for a curfew - I'm a social liberal at heart who believes in individual liberty, freedom of movement, freedom of association. But it's still an interest thought experiment.

(Even if some of the hard-of-thinking round these parts can't grasp the idea of a thought experiment).

anyone i guess (if you're a woman?!) you can't change much. And that's ok. And it's also ok if you've not experienced the things mentioned up thread.

What I'm responding to (not ranting) is how some posters, you included, don't acknowledge how different the experience of others has been. I'll admit I felt a tad ranty when you picked my post up earlier and a) said I referred to all men as evil (I didn't) and b) seem to dismiss how disgusting vat behaviour is.

And actually I'm pretty opinionated and open about it IRL too not just here.

I just wish more men would get their T fronts in a twist about it

Or even Y fronts! Bloody autocorrect

JacquesHammer
you are being goady again, you should change your tune, it's not working

You should all read The Power - an amazing look at what would happen if women suddenly became the stronger gender.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz
I have a woman, and I am also a mother, and I want my kids to sane and safe, and successful. I despair when I read some of the comments on here.

It's not always me th I HH.

I was sought out a assaulted one in the street by a girl who fancied a bit I had started seeing. I didn't know her.

I was also beaten up by a large group of young oriole when I was in my early twenties. Ima mix if girls and boys. It was the girls that singled me and my friend out and "lured" us to the place where I had the shit kicked out of me.

Obviously men do statistically commit most violent crime but there are still some women out there that do awful and violent things too.