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To wonder why anyone would want relatives round straight after birth?

385 replies

MakingABoobOfIt · 04/10/2019 15:52

Extremely close family ((ie my mum and dad) is an exception to this rule, but I can’t bear this idea that family are somehow entitled to see a new baby, regardless of how the new parents feel. New parents have zero obligation to anyone, other than themselves and their new baby. They don’t need in-laws traipsing round while they’re trying to sleep/recover from the birth/feed the baby/have some family time. End of PSA Grin

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Alittleodd · 05/10/2019 00:44

Much spelling errors. Maximal tired. Very wow.

Horehound · 05/10/2019 00:58

@tabulahrasa

My point was chuff all to do with how much recovering people needed to do and wondering what people do with visitors that they need to feel up to having them
Well how about not walk about with breasts out pretty much 24/7? That's a start. I'm not having my MIL or FIL round when that's happening. That's what I was doing Confused

LovePoppy · 05/10/2019 01:50

Why do they need entertaining though? They are family. Point them in the direction of the kitchen. Most people like to be helpful
They might be family, but my inlaws like to be hosted, and a visit isn’t proper unless it’s three hours long. They live 10 minutes away.

Also, I was in pain. I didn’t want to see anyone. Seeing anyone when I’m in pain is unenjoyable.

I could tell my parents to go home, or not come over, but I couldn’t to my inlaws or I was being mean and “not sharing”. So, yeah. Not so easy.

NarwhalsNarwhals · 05/10/2019 02:03

Depends on the relatives, FIL, DH's grandparents, my parents, my grandma and my siblings were great guests, never stayed too long, called on the way to check if I needed anything, made drinks, brought round treats, helped out etc. I really enjoyed their visits as DH went back to work the day after I came home and the extra help and company was lovely. Favourite visitor was my youngest sister (then 5) who announced she was babysitting (with help from my mum) and ordered me to put my feet up while she read her reading book to DD Grin

MIL and SIL however were fucking awful visitors, arrived unannounced, stayed hours, made me feel really judged, expected waiting on and commented on everything. If I have another one they are not visiting.

pumkinspicetime · 05/10/2019 03:18

My Mil stayed with us for a week before and week afterwards. Turns out she was hopeless with babies but she cooked, shopped and cleaned like crazy.
Far more use than my DM.

Notajogger · 05/10/2019 05:15

Have a think about it OP. If you have a DS and when his DW has a baby they tell you her DM can come to see the baby but you can’t because your the MIL

It's not about seeing the baby, solely, though - my mum wanted to come and see me and look after me/us - and yes the baby too of course - whereas MIL obviously really only wanted to see the baby. It's not because of her "MIL" status, it's more the intention/how the visit is.

Also of course women on the whole are going to be more comfortable being a huge mess in front of their own mother and be able to tell her to bog off when required, over their MIL.

For me it's not the "status" of the grandparent anyway. I'd feel more comfortable with my MIL there for a couple of hours cooing at the baby than my own father. And I'd feel loads more comfortable with DH's "stepmum" who is not related to either of us, than I would with PIL. It's about the individuals and how they make you feel too.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 05/10/2019 05:46

I beginning to think my PiL and wider family is a bit of a rare gem.... i loved having visitors after both kids, Every one brought me chocolate & meals, I was strongly berated for trying to lift a finger & brought cups of tea. Not to mention told I looked amazing in my pjs etc. I'm not shy about who I bf in front of & bf is the norm in both sides of our family so that was fine.

I was keen to show off my babies Blush

Oysterbabe · 05/10/2019 06:02

My MIL was there when we got home from the hospital with DS, about 6 hours after he was born. I remember the look on her face holding him when he was that new, she was absolutely over the moon. I'm glad she got to do that. She didn't stay long and was no bother.

Jent13c · 05/10/2019 06:43

My in laws came in when I was in hospital for a quick cuddle and then on day 4 after I'd been up all night feeding and unsettled baby she came in to my bedroom where I was crying and feeding some more, picked him up and settled him. We slept for 4 hours while she did a deep clean of the house (including the windows) and made us homemade soup. Shes a saint and I'm so sad she wont be in the same country as us when we have number 2. Secretly hoping DH flies her out.

MaryPopppins · 05/10/2019 07:02

I had my parents round the day after giving birth (was back home) as well as DHs parents and siblings (we did say no kids though)

Imagine now that one day you have a grown up son and his wife lets her mum see your new grandchild but not you.

TillyTheTiger · 05/10/2019 07:03

GPs should be treated equally
I totally agree, if they are equally helpful, live a similar distance away etc.
My parents live 3 hours away so can't just 'pop in for half an hour'. My mum was my birth partner along with my husband and she was incredible, then stayed for ten days after the birth doing every bit of cooking, cleaning, washing, ironing, freezer-stocking etc while my Dad shopped, did DIY jobs, got my car serviced for me etc. They were both there to look after ME primarily, and make sure I got the time I needed to heal, establish breastfeeding etc.
My in-laws are lovely but when they came over they just wanted to eat cake and cuddle the baby, not to help out, so they popped over for shorter visits. Nobody was unhappy with the situation, and both sets of grandparents have a great relationship with DS now.

Andonandonan · 05/10/2019 07:07

One of my happiest memories ever is the welcoming party waiting at home for us when we arrived back with dc1. My parents, in laws, my grandparents, my brother, some close family friends. We had waited such a long time for dc1; it was beautiful that so many other people were just as excited to meet her too.

However, I totally get that for lots of people that sounds like an absolute nightmare! Each to their own.

PurpleFlower1983 · 05/10/2019 07:09

YABU having double standards - I didn’t want anyone around, only DH for the first few days. We visited others instead so no need to worry about a tidy house Grin

madcatladyforever · 05/10/2019 07:11

I would have loved anyone over who cared. I didn't have anyone. I really wanted to show my baby off to someone. My mother lived abroad and didn't see him for over a year. I was the only one on the ward (you stayed 10 days in those days) and everyone had loving family around them all day I was all alone.
Eventually an aunt came and I wanted to cling to her forever.
Be grateful for your family. Some mother out there would die for a familyear.

Horehound · 05/10/2019 07:49

But the last few posters with their amazingly helpful MIL's have missed the point. You were happy to have them/her But what if you didn't feel up to it? What if you werent ready to have her? What if you did just need your mum? How would MIL have been if you asked for her to not come round yet?
It's not whether your mil was helpful or not and whether you don't care about bf in front of fil

KatieB55 · 05/10/2019 07:59

My MIL was amazing - did laundry, cooked all the meals & kept house clean. FiL walked the dog.

Throwawaynameforthrowawaytale · 05/10/2019 13:31

I'm curious after reading all this what people think of me. I'm sure my ILS would describe me as having kept (and keeping) them away from baby.

For context we live in a different country to both parents but travel takes only a couple of hours by car. Think wales to England but not :-)

We have never had a good relationship. Mil especially. She always comments on my weight, compared me to other women, tells dh she saw such and such ex the other day and how beautiful she is now etc. Things came to a head at my wedding when she refused to speak to me on the day, told dh she did not approve, wore white etc all the typical cliches! Her main anger over the wedding was a decision dh had made but which I got the blame for (ironically I didn't care either way!) Anyway afterwards dh told her he was very disappointed in her and she appeared contrite for a little bit before slipping back into her old ways.

When I became pregnant she and FIL began messaging every other day, asking how their gc was, telling me to rest etc. This may seem nice but because of our history I just felt smothered and like they were only interested because of the baby. I felt like rent a womb tbh! Especially as mil rushed to put our scan pic on Facebook after we asked her not to (previous losses so a bit nervous).

Anyway! My birthing partners were my mum and dh. It was all fairly bad at the end. I ended up going to theatre so just dh, mum stayed to see us as we were wheeled out, checked I was okay and then left to stay at our house. She cleaned and filled our fridge with food! I had stitches, excess blood loss, baby had to have a lot of help, we both had infections etc. Because of this we had to stay in hospital two days to be observed and have various treatments.

When I came out of theatre late at night i asked dh to call/message his mum and dad so that I could then message my family. He did this. Unbeknownst to me they then started bombarding him with messages about when could they come down. Dh explained we were both unwell and asked them to wait until we knew more of what was going on.

The next day my dad drove to pick my mum up (she doesn't drive so had got a coach to us) and called into the hospital for half an hour. I was bed bound, hadn't been able to shower and had a catheter in situ. Thankfully bf had gone okay. I was slightly embarrassed but as it was just my mum and dad I could cope. I would have been frankly mortified to see anyone else. Especially as I kept falling asleep due to the medication I was on.

FIL had text dh at this point to tell him to tell me they were coming for half an hour. Dh said no and to wait until the second day when we could come home.

Second day comes, we arrive home and ILs arrive. FIL walks into the nursery where I am sat on a rocking chair with my baby, he literally lifted up his leg, farted three times and started talking to dh. He then came over to see the baby. He did not speak to me until he had been there at least 10-15 mins. They stayed for 3 hours, made comments about me not embarrassing people by breastfeeding in front of them, dumped six bin bags of random stuff in my kitchen for me to sort and left. I bit my tongue the entire time and let them pass round my son while I wanted to cry with pain and exhaustion.

Since giving birth FIL has set up a family WhatsApp for 'baby updates' without me in it. Dh has left it and refuses to engage. We seem them very rarely even though I have mentioned to Dh about inviting them he is not interested.

So yes, I believe parents are different to ILs. They may be equal in that they are both gps but they are not equal in terms of caring for the mother and the relationship there. I know some people will get on with their ILs brilliantly and that is great. It all depends on the people I think and if there is mutual respect.

Throwawaynameforthrowawaytale · 05/10/2019 13:32

Wow sorry that's so long I think I found it therapeutic 🙈

timetochangeagainforever · 05/10/2019 13:41

When I had my son at 1am, I was home by 9am and we picked my mum up on the way home from hospital. MIL came over straight from work, the. My dad, my sister did the same with her kids and my DH aunt and cousins in the eve. Wouldn't have wanted it any other way. They all mucked in, helped and bought food and flowers (and baby gifts) it was lovely

ElizaPancakes · 05/10/2019 13:43

I had my parents, in laws and DH’s ex (with DSS!) while I was still in hospital.

My dad was a bit of a shite, sat on his arse expecting the royal treatment and asked me to drive him to the station (which I should have said no to but didn’t) but aside from that I was fine with it.

It’s not the visiting that’s a problem - it’s when they don’t leave!

Ginger1982 · 05/10/2019 13:48

@Throwawaynameforthrowawaytale that's an awful tale and I don't blame you for feeling the way you do. It sounds like your PILs don't care much for you and have no boundaries. So I can see entirely why you would only want your parents there.

I think it's different though when there are no 'issues' as such with the in-laws and they are kept away merely because they are in-laws.

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2019 13:48

“I'm curious after reading all this what people think of me.”

What I think is that your in laws are vile people, and I wouldn’t want them anywhere near me. But they are vile because they are vile. Not because they are in laws.

Throwawaynameforthrowawaytale · 05/10/2019 13:52

@Ginger1982 and @BertrandRussell oh agreed but I think they'd tell the tale that I'm an awful evil dil (mil has told people I have stolen her son because he moved to this country to be with me).

I think it's less about what relation they are and more WHO they are personality wise. My point is simply that I don't think gps have equal rights just because of blood. It's the relationship that counts.

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2019 14:00

“My point is simply that I don't think gps have equal rights just because of blood. It's the relationship that counts.”
Well, obviously if either lot is horrible then I agree. But I don’t if they aren’t. I take it that my mil’s primary relationships are with my dp and my children. Obviously I expect her to be cordial and i’m cordial back. But I don’t want her to be like my mother and she has daughters of her own. So when she came visiting after my children were born I didn’t expect her primary focus to be me. I expected it to be her son, the baby, the other children and me. In that order.My mother’s primary concern was me, the baby, the other children and my dp. Also in that order!

Throwawaynameforthrowawaytale · 05/10/2019 14:05

@Bertrandrussell no I agree I just mean when I felt like crap after birth my priority and my husbands was making sure I felt comfortable, not making sure everyone met baby immediately. Even with my shit ils I made sure they were next to meet baby and didn't wait an unreasonably long time. 😊