I’m so fed up with all this vegan wankery

[TitaniaQueenOfTheFairies]

To all you actual vegans, amazing, I wish you a long and happy life.

I am just so fed up with veganism taking over the world, when I have yet to come across an actual one. *edited to say that some places in the world don’t have a choice

Restaurants falling over themselves with vegan menus offering fake meat and plastic cheese.

Veganuary - people just going to the supermarket and buying fake meat, rather than actually trying to eat differently.

People eating ‘vegan food’. Just eat an apple, or a carrot with houmous or any other naturally occurring food that an animal hasn’t produced. It’s not hard.

And I can’t even begin with all the plant based twattery. Many people have been quietly eating less or no meat, fish, eggs & dairy for many years and have had no need to pontificate about it.

I know I am probably being unreasonable but I just need to say it.

See I don’t give much of a shit about my diet, but would prefer to harm as little as possible along the way. I’m as happy as fucking Larry stuffing my face with vegan burgers, sausage rolls, cakes and ice cream. Happy days

These alternatives have already helped a number of people transition and reduce their meat and dairy intake when otherwise they wouldnt. There is evidence that this needs to happen...

Absolutely! The easier it is for people to reduce their meat/dairy consumption, the better. Equally, nobody is going to stop you ordering your steak if you want (unless you go to a vegan/veggie restaurant, of course...)

Yabu.

I eat meat. But I’m loving all the vegan choices popping up, and now often prefer them over the meat dishes.

It’s fantastic having the vegan options.

I’m delighted with the greater vegan choices and raised awareness of the damage livestock farming does to the environment.

I’m not vegan either but I just can’t see who they are hurting and why people get so angry about someone else’s food. Just let them enjoy their dinner

If supermarkets and restaurants are selling more vegan stuff, its cause theres a market for it. Honestly, dont let it bother you. Most vegatarians and vegans are used to walking past a few aisles of raw bloddy meat to get to the stuff they want without it playing on their mind.

Jack fruit burgers, when the average brit doesn't even know what a jackfruit looks like.

I suspect quite a lot of people have no idea what a tuna looks like. Lots of my private kids things it’s just stuff in a tin and had no idea it used to be a fish.

This will probably go down badly, but honestly, raising your children vegan like a pp just mentioned is just so saddening. The poor poor children.

There is a reason why Belgium is considering prosecuting parents who do this.

Happily I don’t think veganism is a national phase, it’s a growth industry.

I am not a vegan but I love eating in vegan restaurants and try to eat as vegan as we can. Would love to completely give up meat and dairy.

Why do you think it's sad @GetRid? They can always choose to eat meat as adults if they want to. Like many adults were brought up meat eaters and choose to stop. It's the same surely?

My DS is allergic to dairy and soya so the rise in veganism is good in some ways but so much of the food is soya based it's actually worse than having no dairy free options

What I can’t stand is the holier than thou attitude when the majority of vegans seem to not even eat real food but fake over processed crap factory food or food that has been shipped in from another continent which of course is wonderful as it doesn’t contain any animal products.

How can you not understand? The aim (usually) is to not support an industry that causes animal suffering. It has nothing to do with the amount of processing or anything else (if you're bothered about that too then of course you don't eat that stuff either). The point is to not contribute to animal suffering.

*Also I'm NOT vegan but am more tempted to become one because of the fanatical (and often quite unhealthy) meat-eaters who have some kind of obsession with vegans.

Why oh why do you care? That I think is fascinating!*

Bit of guilty conscience in many cases. And Im not saying that as a value judgement, just statement of fact. I know many kind and intelligent people who still eat a lot of meat but I find it difficult to believe they havent had many a moment or two weighing up envienmental and cruelty issues. Most just quietly get on, but others want to unleash their guilt onto others, accusing them of "food fascism" or something equally ridiculous, or tying themselves in knots trying to argue that a hundred million reared cattle are good for the environment somehow, and that industrial farming does provide a rich and happy life for animals with intelligence on a par with dogs.

Purple Dsisies, cans of tuna have fish on them, don't you think that somewhat gives it away. But the point is the same we should know where our food comes from and what it is.

I'm loving it Just into my third week of going vegan and loving all the choice.

I'm. Life long meat eater. I'm incredibly fussy about the meat I eat - I only have well reared, local meat kept in humane conditions .

I think that actually people who choose to be vegan/vegetarian should have decent choices - it must be incredibly frustrating to not be able to have a decent meal out. Often when I go to a show etc I will have a vegetarian or vegan option rather than choose a meat dish that uses meat I have no information about.

What I find very disturbing is being at a local show this weekend and a grown woman asking my partner is the animal in the ring was a lamb or a cow. (It was very definitely a bull ) THAT is worrying. And yes, she was completely serious.

But a lot of the vegans I know don’t give a flying fuck about animals it’s just the latest healthy eating fad

This will probably go down badly, but honestly, raising your children vegan like a pp just mentioned is just so saddening. The poor poor children.

Meaty tears?

The food industry is behind this "craze" "trend" whatever you want to call it.

They make a fortune eg jackfruit is very very cheap so slick marketing & viral campaigns to hit their target market work. Posh supermarket jackfruit burgers heavily targeted at the newer vegans are a goldmine. Profit profit profit is all it is.

Fair play to those who have been genuinely vegan for years & who don't feel the need to shout about it (or have it tattooed on!) they must hate admitting to it if asked! So many fake vegans now who eat vegan in public but not so in private.

lamb or a cow no! A grown up asked that? How did he not say ‘it’s a chicken’?

Purple Dsisies, cans of tuna have fish on them, don't you think that somewhat gives it away. But the point is the same we should know where our food comes from and what it is.

I agree. You’d still be surprised at how many people still don’t know about tuna though. I’ve been veggie/vegan for a long time and people have still tried to serve me all sorts of stuff with meat in it.

I can’t work out OP’s point. She’s too er, cunning for little me.

Is she pro or against vegans?

YABU

The fake dishes help people make the leap. I bloody love a nut cutlet more than a burger but haven't time to make it myself.