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To ask you what you think would be bad about a Corbyn government?

381 replies

catdoctor · 26/09/2019 22:48

Please be specific.

OP posts:
Sunshine93 · 27/09/2019 06:52

i would love to see support and education for families to help them support and inspire their own kids. Well vote labour then because they have great plans to improve and revitalise sure start.

They can’t anticipate all circumstances, they can anticipate most and this policy will be very carefully written. It won't just be one headline grabbing line it will be clause after Clause after Clause. As I've said twice it's about taking property from russian oligarchs etc not for little old ladies who are visiting sock relatives.

Bovneydazzlers · 27/09/2019 06:53

There is barely a policy announced at their conference that I like: from their conference policies below. I hate BJ and will be supporting Lib Dem, but saddens me how appalling the main opposition is, and how far left it has swung.

Schools. Commits to integrating all private schools into the state sector via: withdrawal of charitable status and all other public subsidies and tax privileges; ensuring universities admit the same proportion of private school students as in the wider population; redistribution of endowments, investments and properties held by private schools. Jeremy Corbyn has said he will prioritise the tax/charitable status aspect, not land ownership.

Free nursery places from 2 for all children

Establish a comprehensive, co-operative university

Scrap prescription charges in England.

We’ll restore full trade union rights and workplace rights from day one. We’ll roll out collective bargaining to enable workers to get their fair share of what they produce.
We’ll bring in a Real Living Wage of at least £10 per hour.

Cap rents at a percentage of local average incomes

The next Labour government will put in place the changes needed to reduce average full-time hours to 32 a week within the next decade. A shorter working week with no loss of pay.”

FluffyAlpaca19 · 27/09/2019 06:53

I'm a life long labour supporter but I don't want a labour government for the sole reason of brexit. Brexit was the Conservatives doing so it should be it's undoing. Brexit should be what ultimately destroys the nasty conservatives. They've got ahead of themselves, become heartless and arrogant. Something should cut them down and I hope it will be the brexit issue.

If any other party gets in, they will be blamed by the Conservatives & leavers for making a mess. Let brexit be the millstone around the conservatives necks.

Sunshine93 · 27/09/2019 06:55

As someone on a fraction above average income who is struggling to make ends meet, I worry I will be taxed more and will have even less money to pay my mortgage and bills

It's only the top 5% who would see tax increses. Not sure what you mean about having a garden?

JoyceJeffries · 27/09/2019 07:00

The top 5% will just leave (just like in the 1970s) because we live in a global economy.

bellinisurge · 27/09/2019 07:00

Most things apart from avoiding No Deal. Which is why I am coming around to reluctantly accepting it.

Tippety · 27/09/2019 07:07

The 4 day working week for the same pay is hilarious.

elprup · 27/09/2019 07:09

Not sure what you mean about having a garden?

I’m worried about the garden tax!

I disagree with the argument that the top 5% would “just leave” though, as a pp has just suggested. I know a couple of people in that bracket and while they dislike Corbyn, they certainly aren’t planning to leave the country if he did get in, with the massive amounts of upheaval and uprooting their young children which that would entail!

Tippety · 27/09/2019 07:10

Oh wait, the one about creating a generic drug company to supply the NHS. How on earth does he see this working, just invest in more procurement people FFS. He says the richest (who already pay 50% tax) will fund all of these policies, doubtful. Uni shouldn't be free either.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 27/09/2019 07:11

If Labour are allowed to eliminate women’s sex-based rights, it’s not rich, privileged women who will suffer most.

It’s the women in hospitals, shelters or prisons, who will have no choice about sharing their space with men. It’s already happening but it’s not enshrined in law - yet. If Corbyn gets in & repeals the GRA then that’s it.

Weebitawks · 27/09/2019 07:16

With all do respect, I think people don't show themselves as particularly bright when they can't/pretend they can't grasp Labours Brexit stance. Lib Dems we're almost wiped out and had fuck all to lose. Brexit has basically saved their party. A lot of Labour heartlands voted leave. The party's stance means that the MPs can represent their constituents.

After all this is done and dusted, if it ever is, having a party that wasn't stained by a particular side is what the country will need to bring it back together

Random18 · 27/09/2019 07:20

A lot of Mail and Express readers on here!!

I'm not a fan of Corbyn. I think he is woeful as an Opposition Leader.

But I don't fear him and I.don't fear the Parliamentary Labour Party.

Some of the policies that have come out of the conference are not practical in their current form.

But this is not yet a manifesto. I will reserve judgement until then.

They will have my vote though. The Tory party in it's current form is frightening.

I could never vote for evil or anyone that represents evil.

Singlebutmarried · 27/09/2019 07:28

If any other party gets in, they will be blamed by the Conservatives & leavers for making a mess. Let brexit be the millstone around the conservatives necks.

Like labour left the ‘ha ha there’s no money left’ note last time there was a change in party at top?

WickedGoodDoge · 27/09/2019 07:38

And just think of the effect of all those smart pupils on the other children in state education, as well as all those excellent private school teachers. The effect would be great.

I do hope that was not serious. I mean, I think my kids are great and all, but the idea that their presence would have any sort of effect on the local state school children is A) incredibly patronising to the state school children and B) utterly ludicrous anyway.

Incandescentwithage · 27/09/2019 07:40

Terrorist sympathisers. Anti semitism

WickedGoodDoge · 27/09/2019 07:44

Oh, and I do think it quite funny that he’s busy stealing policies from the SNP (free prescriptions, free university etc) that Scottish Labour have spent years lambasting the SNP for, screaming “populist policies” at them. Grin Grin Grin Grin

Dongdingdong · 27/09/2019 07:45

the idea that their presence would have any sort of effect on the local state school children is A) incredibly patronising to the state school children

Agree - it’s horribly patronizing

Writersblock2 · 27/09/2019 07:48

I would never vote for him. His stance on women’s rights says it all. Including his personal views on prostitution. He’s a horrible man.

chomalungma · 27/09/2019 07:51

so hope that was not serious. I mean, I think my kids are great and all, but the idea that their presence would have any sort of effect on the local state school children is A) incredibly patronising to the state school children and B) utterly ludicrous anyway

It wasn't serious - all private school kids are just as intelligent as state school kids - they just have the advantage of parents being able to afford to send their kids to schools with small class sizes and teachers who have more resources and generally have children with less attitude in class.

If anything, I feel for those children who will be taken from a place of privilege to have to survive in the real world with other children who don't have that advantage.

Bloomburger · 27/09/2019 07:52

If he keeps his promises of more money for the NHS, schools, more SEN provision for children, free university courses, abolishes universal credit & the disgusting assessments for ESA & PIP & increases the NMW to £10 per hour then bring it on, even if he only manages half of that it would improve the lives of hundreds of thousands of people & thousands of families.

Socialist government promises are lovely until the money runs out (again).

bellinisurge · 27/09/2019 07:56

Thing is @Bloomburger , and I can't believe I am saying anything that backs his position, the whole "magic money tree" argument doesn't work any more given what is being pissed up the wall by the Tories to get Brexit.

MissBridgetJones · 27/09/2019 07:57

Corbin

MissBridgetJones · 27/09/2019 07:57

*Corbyn (ruddy auto correct)

Bloomburger · 27/09/2019 07:58

Jeremy
Diane
Len
John
Emily

Bloomburger · 27/09/2019 08:01

Bellinisurge the Toris are trying to deliver what was voted for in the referendum, I'm sure Labour wouldn't have done any better and the way the MPs of both sides are blocking the process probably means it is costing shit loads more then it could have done.

Regardless any party can promise what the hell they want until they have to fund said promises.