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To ask you what you think would be bad about a Corbyn government?

381 replies

catdoctor · 26/09/2019 22:48

Please be specific.

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Samcro · 27/09/2019 10:13

nothing
I would love him to be PM.

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2019 10:23

@redappleandaquamarinebow1987

Well in that case they won’t get the grades to go to medical school, so no need to worry!

I assume from your choice of words that you’re not from the U.K. Just to reassure you, while there will be state schools that fit your characterisation, the vast majority don’t. And the current assessment process looks at that very aspect of state schools and marks them accordingly.

dodgeballchamp · 27/09/2019 10:31

Completely agree that any opposition towards a corbyn government is coming from a place of privilege. I am fully in favour of abolishing private schools, seizing empty houses, regulating rents and house prices and ensuring the poorest can access secure housing, good education and the same opportunities as everyone else. I’d also abolish inheritance while I’m at it but while some Labour MPs are in favour of that it isn’t an official policy.

Nobody NEEDS a second home or tons of investments or to hoard wealth. Equality of opportunity means equal distribution of assets and yes, it absolutely should be controlled how much personal wealth people can amass. Do I necessarily trust the government to do the right thing with it? No. But I would like to see an end to unregulated capitalism

ChristmasInJuly · 27/09/2019 10:41

Well I’m not entirely sure where he stands on a lot of things - which in itself isn’t great. But the abolishing private schools thing is ridiculous, and his dithering over Brexit was staggering. He’s just not a leader. And I won’t vote Labour until he’s gone.

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2019 10:47

I don’t think his opinions are important. It’s what’s in the manifesto that’s important.

BogglesGoggles · 27/09/2019 10:49

Well they are far left totalitarians for one...

BogglesGoggles · 27/09/2019 10:52

@dodgeballchamp

  1. Freedom is actually important you know. Freedom exists in the right to choose to do what you want, for example choosing how to educate your children, or choosing to have multiple properties.
  2. All those things will make poor people poorer. The economy will rank and those who have the skills to earn a decent amount of money will just leave to go to more liberal countries. This happens every single time in far left scenarios.
redappleandaquamarinebow1987 · 27/09/2019 10:53

@BertrandRussell oh you mean ofsted the other thing he proposed to get stop? also where is the money that these extra public schools will cost going to come from? no I am not from the UK but was lucky to go to an international school. What was it that gave me away lol just curious lol

BertrandRussell · 27/09/2019 10:53

There are many things that make me feel old, but hearing the current Labour party policies being described as Far Left, Communists, Marxist or Totalitarian are among the worst........

BogglesGoggles · 27/09/2019 10:53

@dodgeballchamp oh, and equality of opportunity means fuck all when there are no opportunities expect to take what the government lets you have and shut up.

BogglesGoggles · 27/09/2019 10:55

@BertrandRussell how else do you describe confiscating private property and telling people how to live?

Mistlewoeandwhine · 27/09/2019 10:57

I’m really excited about a Corbyn government. They are the only ones working for ordinary people. The policies are moderate socialist and would only improve people’s lives. You can’t say that about the current lot, selling arms to countries to kill kids, rising numbers of people at food banks, selling off the NHS and a homeless person dying every nineteen hours.

GOODCAT · 27/09/2019 11:00

Far, far too left wing. I am keen on a free market, but with environmental and social protections. Labour would kill the economy.

Labour cannot say whether it is pro brexit or pro remain. To go into an election and not say what it wants on a major issue like this does not inspire anything.

It doesn't matter in the least what I think though, I live in a Tory area and the Tory MP will always get in. At our last local election there were 13 candidates for 12 spots. The one that didn't get in was the sole Labour candidate. Labour gets voted against here with or without a far left Labour party.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 27/09/2019 11:00

There’s a local private school near me which became a state school ( academy like all the state schools round here) and it simply carried on but dropped the fees and the entrance exam. It just started admitting local kids in year 7. It’s still a very good school and much better than other schools near it.
My eldest goes to a lovely private school. If they did the same thing, it would not bother me at all. It’d just save me a fortune in fees.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 27/09/2019 11:02

Labour is not pro or against Brexit because it is reflecting the mixed opinions of its members and, in fact, the country as a whole. To go and get the best deal it can, put that on the table and then ask the country to vote for or against the deal is much better than anything the shambolic Tories have come up with.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 27/09/2019 11:05

Brexit.
Corbyn and comrades
Tax and bust

MustardScreams · 27/09/2019 11:31

@GOODCAT ‘kill the economy’ rather than just killing people due to austerity measures.

Miaowing · 27/09/2019 11:40

"we don't like JC because he might take some of my money or choice or privilege away from me"

100% spot on and is the reason I'll never vote for Labour

CendrillonSings · 27/09/2019 11:50

100% spot on and is the reason I'll never vote for Labour

Exactly. What do these socialists expect us to say? “Well, I suppose Labour will crush me financially and fuck up my family’s life, but he’s basically Jesus so who cares?” Not bloody likely!

WeshMaGueule · 27/09/2019 11:50

I believe France has a similar setup

Yes we have a 35 hour working week, brought in by the Socialists back in the early 2000s.

how else do you describe confiscating private property and telling people how to live

Taxation and the rule of law.

Bloomburger · 27/09/2019 12:05

Dodgeballcamp can you tell me where in the world this idea of the equality for all has actually worked? Cuba? Venezuela? Former Soviet Union!

Oliversmumsarmy · 27/09/2019 14:39

I disagree with the argument that the top 5% would “just leave” though, as a pp has just suggested. I know a couple of people in that bracket and while they dislike Corbyn, they certainly aren’t planning to leave the country if he did get in, with the massive amounts of upheaval and uprooting their young children which that would entail

You only have to look back to the 70s when Labour taxed the hell out of the top earners.

We were not rich by any means but virtually all of the families we knew, who were in our sort of financial bracket, who never dreamed of leaving the UK and going to live in Spain or the US or France etc left.

They saw their businesses disintegrating whilst they were putting in more and more hours and getting little return.

Whilst they say now that they wouldn’t move you never know if things get bad no one can say never.

museumum · 27/09/2019 14:47

I don’t mind the leftness of the policies but I’m very worried about lack of transparency and who is actually controlling things. Who/what actually is momentum and why do they have so much power? Who is a corbynite and who isn’t? Why do they want rid of Tom Watson (seems pretty reasonable to me)? Basically wtf is going on in the party????

(Tory’s no better obvs but a bit more transparent).

noblegiraffe · 27/09/2019 14:48

I oppose Labour’s education policies despite being a state school teacher who would probably benefit from a nice pay rise under a Labour government.

They seem to come from a position of ideology rather than any understanding of the education system and there’s no joined up thinking. It’s back of the fag packet stuff that would inevitably lead to lower standards in schools.

Scrapping KS2 SATs and replacing with teacher assessment - this would increase workload massively, and be subjective nonsense. Plenty of evidence that teacher assessment discriminates against disadvantaged kids and certain ethnic minorities too, so Labour shooting themselves in the foot.

Scrapping Ofsted and replacing with some ‘LA health check’. Dear god this sounds dreadful. I would be happy to see Ofsted reformed, would be very happy to see the Outstanding grade go, but binning a national body to replace with a local guy with a clipboard seems like a potential disaster.

Scrapping private schools - not official policy yet but I think it has to be if the conference voted for it. Scrapping private schools has to be WAY down the list of things that need to be done to fix state education. Start at the top, eh?

PLUS what state education needs right now is some stability. Not Labour stomping in scrapping things left, right and centre.

MustardScreams · 27/09/2019 14:49

Ffs we’re talking about nearly 50 years ago. Times have changed. Taxing big businesses properly should be the top of everyone’s agenda. And yes I do think the top 5% should be taxed accordingly.

There’s a reason the Tories are so desperate to get out of the EU by the end of the year, and it’s all about helping their rich friends with their tax.