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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask you what you think would be bad about a Corbyn government?

381 replies

catdoctor · 26/09/2019 22:48

Please be specific.

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BertrandRussell · 29/09/2019 10:16

I don’t think there’s a Labour Party policy about holiday homes is there? Just that there should be a tax on them- which presumably McDonnell will pay?

BeardedMum · 29/09/2019 10:17

I own second properties and I would much prefer a Labour government to the Tories. It’s strange that the people who would benefit from a labour policies (probably not me) seem to prefer B’s government.

PencilsInSpace · 29/09/2019 10:19

Thank goodness for decent non Jewish labour MP’s like John Mann and Wes Streeting who are prepared to stand up to support the Jewish community

Unfortunately Wes Streeting was involved with the 'Labour Against Transphobia' group which doxxed a whole load of gender critical Labour women with the aim of getting them kicked out of the party

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3144285-Labour-Against-Transphobia-Facebook-group

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-suspends-activist-in-transgender-row-cdjvhpldb?shareToken=839b13a472feff290f3ce463f8cea4e7

WeshMaGueule · 29/09/2019 10:23

I'm failing to see why it's fair for people who rent to lose the homes they pay for at the drop of a hat but not for people who own second homes to be compensated for losing theirs.

HandsOffMyRights · 29/09/2019 10:44

Still, keep using the Gilead story about trans people.

Still, keep conflating gender identity and sexuality.

BertrandRussell · 29/09/2019 10:51

“I'm failing to see why it's fair for people who rent to lose the homes they pay for at the drop of a hat but not for people who own second homes to be compensated for losing theirs.”
Don’t understand?

chomalungma · 29/09/2019 10:53

Still, keep conflating gender identity and sexuality

Umm, you do realise that sexuality - as in who you are attracted to - has nothing to do with being trans Hmm

And you do realise that people can't just stop being trans? Even though some might try to hide it or escape - just as LGBT people try to escape countries that have the death penalty at the moment for being LGBT - yes, Gilead is happening for LGBT people already.

CendrillonSings · 29/09/2019 10:59

I'm failing to see why it's fair for people who rent to lose the homes they pay for at the drop of a hat but not for people who own second homes to be compensated for losing theirs.

It’s the difference between owning something and not owning something. Wasn’t this covered in school?

BertrandRussell · 29/09/2019 11:04

“It’s the difference between owning something and not owning something. Wasn’t this covered in school?”
Is that supposed to be an explanation?

CendrillonSings · 29/09/2019 11:15

Is that supposed to be an explanation?

If you have even the most basic understanding of property rights, yes.

Dapplegrey · 29/09/2019 11:19

I do think something should be done about whole blocks of flats being bought as an investment and left empty apart from a caretaker. This happens in London - I don’t know if it happens to the same extent in other cities.
But if there’s a plan to confiscate any property left empty for more than 6 months then I’m sure the owners will find some way round.
It’s appalling though, the number of properties in London left empty for years alongside the housing crisis.

BertrandRussell · 29/09/2019 11:21

“But if there’s a plan to confiscate any property left empty for more than 6 months then I’m sure the owners will find some way round”

Not confiscate. Compulsorily purchase..

CendrillonSings · 29/09/2019 11:27

Not confiscate. Compulsorily purchase

At full market value? Or not? In which case a large chunk of the equity is indeed being confiscated!

Oliversmumsarmy · 29/09/2019 11:28

A quick google shows that 2/3 of banks do place these restrictions on buy to let mortgages

I googled and found only 10% supposedly allowed people on benefits but I couldn’t find a single company that did allow landlords to rent to DSS tenants.
I wanted to check out the terms.

The only way to rent to someone on benefits is to own the property mortgage free.

And you do realise that people can't just stop being trans

I thought lots of people do.

Many children if left up to there own devices grow up and out of being trans

BertrandRussell · 29/09/2019 11:50

Well if the owners don’t want it compulsorily purchased they can get on and develop it, can’t they?

Dapplegrey · 29/09/2019 11:52

Not confiscate. Compulsorily purchase..

Bertrand - ok but there are masses of these flats in London costing from hundreds of thousands to many millions.

I’m horrified by all these empty properties but where will the money come from to compulsory purchase them?

CendrillonSings · 29/09/2019 12:01

Well if the owners don’t want it compulsorily purchased they can get on and develop it, can’t they?

If the government wants to abolish all the time-consuming building, planning, and development regulations, then cracking on within 6 months would be entirely reasonable. If not...

BertrandRussell · 29/09/2019 12:26

“f the government wants to abolish all the time-consuming building, planning, and development regulations,”
Presumably that is all part of the development process?

CendrillonSings · 29/09/2019 12:41

Presumably that is all part of the development process?

And therefore Labour can’t whine that a property might be left empty while the owners go through a process without which development would be illegal! The courts would have a field day with this one.

BertrandRussell · 29/09/2019 12:44

“And therefore Labour can’t whine that a property might be left empty while the owners go through a process without which development would be illegal!”
Er- do you think they are going to check that a building is unoccupied by knocking on the door? Hmm

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 29/09/2019 12:45

The property development industry in some parts of the country is doing very well due to incredibly rich investors

This in turn pays money to the government and creates a large number of jobs

Another short sighted Labour proposal

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 29/09/2019 12:53

I don’t think there’s a Labour Party policy about holiday homes is there? Just that there should be a tax on them- which presumably McDonnell will pay?

But surely if the Labour Party is so against second homes then they should be setting an example and not owning holiday homes? Anyway, regardless of how many houses he owns, the fact that McDonnell is a terrorist sympathiser is enough for me. Vile man.

CendrillonSings · 29/09/2019 12:56

Er- do you think they are going to check that a building is unoccupied by knocking on the door?

Who knows how these idiots think their plans are going to work? No one but an economic illiterate would have proposed them in the first place!

Jillyhilly · 29/09/2019 16:51

No one but an economic illiterate would have proposed them in the first place!

Very true, and I’d love to understand how this tie in with the newly proposed Labour Immigration policies? Let’s let even more hundreds of thousands of people into the country and then completely cut the legs out from under the property development industry at exactly the same time. Is everyone going to be living 10 to a room in multi-million pound “compulsorily purchased” flats in Kensington? None of it makes any sense.

jasjas1973 · 29/09/2019 21:11

From Labours Green paper on housing...

"We publish this ‘Green Paper’ for consultation and for wider debate on our proposals. We welcome views and more detailed work to help develop our plans.
Above all, we want to build a broad consensus behind the conviction that Labour’s new affordable housing is an essential element of any long-term plan to fix the country’s housing crisis and meet people’s housing needs and aspirations"

Considering the avg home is 8x the average salary and homelessness has doubled, plus 50k social homes are sold each year & building companies made huge profit out of help to buy...something needs to change, the Cons are just offering to keep things exactly the same.