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To not want DD to get suspended over a nose piercing?

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Helpmeplease123456 · 26/09/2019 19:08

She is year 11. She got her septum pierced at the beginning of this month (when she turned 16, she asked me previously and I said no. She said fine, I'll go when I'm 16 and don't need consent and she went with a friend a couple of days after her birthday. She has now had it a couple of weeks.

Her school have a ban on facial piercings, only one lobe piercing for each ear is allowed. She did know this and I did too, hence why I said I wasn't giving permission. Obviously I respect she doesn't need it now.

Her school (of course) noticed this the first day she showed up with it and are demanding she takes it out. I have had multiple phone calls about this, during which I've said short of physically yanking it out, there's nothing I can do. She's refusing to twist it up into her nose (which effectively hides it) and is complaining that the school aren't respecting her personal expression. On Monday the school basically said take it out or we'll put you into isolation until it comes out. She refused and has spent 4 days in isolation. (They let her out at lunchtime so she still sees her friends- she doesn't really see the isolation as a punishment i don't think. She likes the quiet time to do the learning without distraction.

I got a call today saying they're thinking of a fixed term suspension if it doesn't come out. Again, they seemed to be implying that I can make her take it out. I really don't want her to be suspended over a nose ring in such an important year but do I just have to accept there's nothing I can do?

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donquixotedelamancha · 26/09/2019 19:11

I really don't want her to be suspended over a nose ring in such an important year but do I just have to accept there's nothing I can do?

What consequences have you tried that haven't worked?

Vulpine · 26/09/2019 19:13

Maybe its the only way she'll learn. She's being an idiot.

Bezalelle · 26/09/2019 19:14

Ask her if she really wants to jeopardise her education for the sake of a piercing? Tell her to twist it up so it can't be seen. Easy.

coconuttelegraph · 26/09/2019 19:14

As she thinks she's old enough to ignore school rules she's old enough to suffer the consequences of missing out on her education.

What does she plan to do after her GCSEs which she's missing vital lessons for?

StCharlotte · 26/09/2019 19:15

"Personal expression" is all very well but there's a time and a place. Sadly for your DD, school is neither.

I'm not sure about double punishment generally but in this case it sounds like some out of school sanctions might be in order?

Personally I'd be reading her the bloody Riot Act.

kitk · 26/09/2019 19:17

If you spoke to her about the consequences before she had it done and she did it anyway then it's up to her. She'll need to realise the consequence of catching up or on FE applications if she cares about that

seaweedandmarchingbands · 26/09/2019 19:17

Nothing at all you can do. She is choosing to break the rules and the consequences are her choice as well.

wheresmyliveship · 26/09/2019 19:17

I think you need to parent her.

Helpmeplease123456 · 26/09/2019 19:18

I have tried talking to her (multiple times) and I just don't get anywhere. I can't confiscate gadgets or anything as she doesn't have a smartphone (previous serious misbehaviour, she now has a flip phone which she needs as she gets a bus to school. She needs to contact me if the bus doesnt show up etc)
She has a laptop but she needs it for schoolwork and revision. Which to be fair to her she does do. She is a good student mostly. Short of grounding her (she doesn't go anywhere anyway. Just emails her friends from her laptop and does skype/similar) i'm not really sure what else to do.

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Fairenuff · 26/09/2019 19:18

What do you mean there's nothing you can do? Have you not put any consequences in place at home? Is she used to getting her own way?

SpaghettiSharon · 26/09/2019 19:19

She’s going to have to suck it up isn’t she. She’s being a brat and she’s going to have to learn the hard way that actions have consequences.

cansu · 26/09/2019 19:20

You seem very unwilling to give her any sanctions. How would it be if you turned off the wifi and stopped paying for her phone contract? Would she maybe decide to take it out then? You sound a bit weak tbh.

bluerad · 26/09/2019 19:20

I'm surprised at the school. I would insist she went to lessons but isolated at break and lunch. Loss of social time has a much bigger impact than not going to lessons.

cansu · 26/09/2019 19:20

Turn off the wifi.

mbosnz · 26/09/2019 19:21

Anything she's particularly looking forward to, that could be jeopardised by her refusal to comply? Anything that she really would like that could be a reward for compliance?

seaweedandmarchingbands · 26/09/2019 19:21

Do you never give her money? Lifts? Tickets to a festival? Does she want driving lessons next year? I would sit her down and explain that if she doesn’t take it out - for her education - all privileges stop.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 26/09/2019 19:21

She has essentially absented herself form school by choosing to do something that results in being put in isolation. In my house- refusing to go to school results in being grounded with all screens/phones/everything removed.

What consequences have you given her for refusing to go to school?

Fairenuff · 26/09/2019 19:21

Cross posts there.

You can give her a set time to do her homework and then remove the laptop from her.

viques · 26/09/2019 19:22

The school are not gong to give in. She knew the rules, if she agrees with them or not is beside the point. Ask her what she is going to do with herself when she is excluded. Does she really want to have to go to a new school, make new friends, all over a bit of metal in her nose. She has made her point, has had her four days of exclusion.

Now is the time to write a dignified letter to her HOY saying she does not agree with the rule, but thinks her education is of greater importance, so will be returning to school without the nose ring.

Remind her that she has possibly the next 80 years of her life to "express herself". Two more years of sticking to school rules is nothing.

dootball · 26/09/2019 19:23

Removal of Internet?

viques · 26/09/2019 19:24

To make it clear, she needs to write the letter, not you!

TheLovleyChebbyMcGee · 26/09/2019 19:24

Just ask her to wear an open ring and flip it up during the school day? I had my septum pierced for a few years hen I was on my 20's and my parents never noticed it once!

aintnutinchanged · 26/09/2019 19:25

You can get clear piercings would she compromise with that

SimonJT · 26/09/2019 19:25

I have a nose piercing (nostril), at the age of 31 I still have to take it out each day before going to work.

There’s a time and a place for personal expression no matter how old you are.

Perunatop · 26/09/2019 19:25

Dress codes are a fact of life. Once a school is chosen its rules have to be respected. If she does not agree with the rules she can seek to have them changed through school council, but in the meantime she needs to obey them. Does she really want to be expelled (which is what will happen eventually if she does not conform), and miss doing GCSEs which will seriously limit her future opportunities?

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