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To not want DD to get suspended over a nose piercing?

326 replies

Helpmeplease123456 · 26/09/2019 19:08

She is year 11. She got her septum pierced at the beginning of this month (when she turned 16, she asked me previously and I said no. She said fine, I'll go when I'm 16 and don't need consent and she went with a friend a couple of days after her birthday. She has now had it a couple of weeks.

Her school have a ban on facial piercings, only one lobe piercing for each ear is allowed. She did know this and I did too, hence why I said I wasn't giving permission. Obviously I respect she doesn't need it now.

Her school (of course) noticed this the first day she showed up with it and are demanding she takes it out. I have had multiple phone calls about this, during which I've said short of physically yanking it out, there's nothing I can do. She's refusing to twist it up into her nose (which effectively hides it) and is complaining that the school aren't respecting her personal expression. On Monday the school basically said take it out or we'll put you into isolation until it comes out. She refused and has spent 4 days in isolation. (They let her out at lunchtime so she still sees her friends- she doesn't really see the isolation as a punishment i don't think. She likes the quiet time to do the learning without distraction.

I got a call today saying they're thinking of a fixed term suspension if it doesn't come out. Again, they seemed to be implying that I can make her take it out. I really don't want her to be suspended over a nose ring in such an important year but do I just have to accept there's nothing I can do?

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Krisskrosskiss · 26/09/2019 19:39

Surely she will do it if they actually threaten to suspend her long term if she doesnt? As a good student surely she doesnt want to ruin all her achievements? Maybe have a talk with her about how you agree with her in terms of the bigger picture... but she is not yet an adult and she has to make it through school yet... the more qualifications she gets the better chance she has of greater personal freedom as an adult. So it's stupid to sacrifice her education over this issue. Even if she thinks the school are being petty she is the one who will suffer for this in the long run. This is not something to make a big stand about. Plenty of time for being covered in piercings when shes at uni... and if she wants a job where theres no dress code or uniform shes probably going to have to achieve a high level of academic or creative success which shes not going to do sat at home with a suspension.

Pinkyyy · 26/09/2019 19:39

She knew the rules and she chose not to follow them. I'd back them in the suspension. She's being very stupid to waste time in such an important year of her education.

She's 16 and will likely want a job in the next couple of years. She needs to learn that rules are rules and 'self expression' isn't a means to bypass them.

Drabarni · 26/09/2019 19:39

You need to instil the consequences, she'll take it out then.
I only have to stop doing stuff for mine and she soon does as asked. It's her own fault if she is suspended, did you warn her this could happen?

Helpmeplease123456 · 26/09/2019 19:39

To the PP who asked, her dad isn't in the picture unfortunately.

I just can't see any consequenses that would actually do anything. I suppose I could change the wifi password until she takes it out (or even just agrees to flip the bloody thing up for school! But she won't, she seems to like being difficult) but then she can't revise. And all her textbooks are on some online site. I'll try talking to her again tonight, maybe she'll wake up to the fact that she's actually in danger of being suspended. I think she thinks the school will give up in the end.

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TheAlternativeTentacle · 26/09/2019 19:41

The school had a ban and she has flouted that. End of.

Helpmeplease123456 · 26/09/2019 19:43

I'm not sure how to tag people on here but she spent some of her birthday money from family on the piercing.

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seaweedandmarchingbands · 26/09/2019 19:43

If she’s not going to take a nose piercing out when her mother a) tells her to b) begs her to, she probably isn’t going to give up the crappy flip phone either. She’s out of control.

Mrsjayy · 26/09/2019 19:44

I think saying she will be suspended is a good move just keep hitting that home. She is probably looking for a reaction you need to be calm and say well DD you were warned

Passthecherrycoke · 26/09/2019 19:44

Maybe you just need to inform her of the suspension and let it happen OP. I’m assuming the only way to stop it is for her to go in tomorrow without the nose ring ie she has to be persuaded tonight?

Fairenuff · 26/09/2019 19:44

OP you are making far too many excuses. There have been lots of helpful suggestions here but you just say they won't work. It doesn't matter actually, they don't have to work. What is important is that you send a message to your child that education is important and you back the school.

Turn off the wifi and if she can't get her homework done it will be her choice. All she has to do is remove the ring and the wifi goes back on. She's bluffing and you're letting her rule the roost.

Pinkyyy · 26/09/2019 19:46

It's clear that she's trying to make some sort of a pointless stand. She doesn't even have to remove it, just flip it up inside her nose.

You need to make it clear that you back the school and will not be calling them to question their decisions. If she thinks you're on her side she will try and play it up to the school.

lljkk · 26/09/2019 19:47

Was she always a stubborn cuss or is this new?

EmeraldShamrock · 26/09/2019 19:48

Leave it up to the school, let her get suspended and see how long she holds out.
Secretly you have to admire her stamina determination and righteousness. Grin
It is an important year, she'll learn to pick her battles in the future, just warn her if she is going to go to war, prepare to loose many a teen tried and failed before.

Passthecherrycoke · 26/09/2019 19:48

But how will then wifi work? She’ll be at school all day tomorrow, and she’ll get suspended there. The WiFi won’t even have an impact. No offence but I’m really struggling to see why that’s a good suggestion

Mrsjayy · 26/09/2019 19:48

fairenuff is right it doesn't have to work she just needs to know you mean what you say switch the WiFi off let her strop

OneAutumnMorning · 26/09/2019 19:49

Don't give her any money. New clothes/make up etc whatever stuff she's into. Tell her Christmas isn't looking good for her.

If that doesn't work tell her school can deal with her because you're done.

Whatsername7 · 26/09/2019 19:49

The text books are not online only - im a teacher. The CGP guides are cheap and you buy an actually text book. Turn the wifi off. The school.should keep her in at lunch too.

titchy · 26/09/2019 19:49

Let her get suspended then FFS. Tell her you support the school's stance. When she revises btw is she doing that in front of you, or in her room and revising actually means social media?

Knittedfairies · 26/09/2019 19:49

If she's old enough to get her nose pierced, she's old enough to deal with the consequences.

Butchyrestingface · 26/09/2019 19:50

Does she get an allowance? Stop that.

She'd be my chief, cook and bottle-washer for the duration of her suspension too. The building of the Burma railway would have nothing on what I'd devise for her during this time.

ViaSacra · 26/09/2019 19:50

Remove her bedroom door?

NorthernSpirit · 26/09/2019 19:51

Parent your own child. Tell her to remove it.

Butchyrestingface · 26/09/2019 19:51

Remove her bedroom door?

A discipline thread would not be complete without someone parachuting in to offer up this one.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 26/09/2019 19:51

As she thinks she's old enough to ignore school rules she's old enough to suffer the consequences of missing out on her education

Couldn't put it clearer.

Cynderella · 26/09/2019 19:52

She doesn't need wifi to revise. She can use notes in her exercise books or she can ask her teachers to supply text books for her to borrow. Or she could get books from the library.

A minority of children have limited or no wifi at home. They manage.