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To not want DD to get suspended over a nose piercing?

326 replies

Helpmeplease123456 · 26/09/2019 19:08

She is year 11. She got her septum pierced at the beginning of this month (when she turned 16, she asked me previously and I said no. She said fine, I'll go when I'm 16 and don't need consent and she went with a friend a couple of days after her birthday. She has now had it a couple of weeks.

Her school have a ban on facial piercings, only one lobe piercing for each ear is allowed. She did know this and I did too, hence why I said I wasn't giving permission. Obviously I respect she doesn't need it now.

Her school (of course) noticed this the first day she showed up with it and are demanding she takes it out. I have had multiple phone calls about this, during which I've said short of physically yanking it out, there's nothing I can do. She's refusing to twist it up into her nose (which effectively hides it) and is complaining that the school aren't respecting her personal expression. On Monday the school basically said take it out or we'll put you into isolation until it comes out. She refused and has spent 4 days in isolation. (They let her out at lunchtime so she still sees her friends- she doesn't really see the isolation as a punishment i don't think. She likes the quiet time to do the learning without distraction.

I got a call today saying they're thinking of a fixed term suspension if it doesn't come out. Again, they seemed to be implying that I can make her take it out. I really don't want her to be suspended over a nose ring in such an important year but do I just have to accept there's nothing I can do?

OP posts:
absopugginglutely · 26/09/2019 19:26

Could you explain to her that she is very fortunate to have an education and therefore the opportunity to live the life she chooses when she’s older and it is very trivial to waste her opportunity on a silly teenage fad?
Some girls her age in less fortunate countries have to fight tooth and nail for the merest of educations and here she is having it handed to her on a plate on the condition that she conforms to a few simple rules.
Could you turn the WiFi off at home/ stop giving her lifts/ take her tech away until she takes it out?

ShawshanksRedemption · 26/09/2019 19:27

She needs to take the consequences OP. I have piercings and I have to take them out for work (I work in a school), it's what I agreed to when I signed the contract. Your DD needs to know that she agreed to be abide by the school rules too when she started there. Unless she is suggesting going elsewhere for her her education in this important year, she needs to suck it up.

And she needs to check what rules there are on dress code wherever she does her further education and then, of course, work.

Passthecherrycoke · 26/09/2019 19:28

Tricky one. Does she want to leave the school? What does she think is going to happen, she thinks that the school will just give up maybe?

When I was at secondary school nose piercing weren’t allowed UNLESS you were of Indian/ Pakistani/ Bangladeshi parentage as my school appeared to think it was a cultural necessity for some. They don’t have any unfair rules like that she thinks justifies her stance do they? Probably not nowadays but you never know

Helpmeplease123456 · 26/09/2019 19:29

Wifi she needs for revision. To be fair she does spend a decent amount of time revising and I'd like to encourage that. I have begged, pleaded, shouted, tried everything it feels like. She won't listen.

I don't think it helps that she knows I don't have an issue with nose piercings in general (I have a nostril piercing myself! However I refused to give permission for hers as I knew it was banned by the school). I just have no idea how to go from here.

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absopugginglutely · 26/09/2019 19:29

Personal expression is the luxury of the very rich.
That’s why you see these 20 somethings with tattoos, piercings and crazy hair because Mummy and Daddy can catch them when they fall and support them from one gap yah to another.
Everyone else just has to conform.

vanillaicedtea · 26/09/2019 19:29

If it's a septum piercing she could have a horseshoe piercing in and she can easily flip it up during school time. Tell her to hide it or take it out. Her choice. And if she starts with excuses it's NOT uncomfortable. I've had mine done for years and it's very easy to hide and breathe with. She needs to play by the rules.

seaweedandmarchingbands · 26/09/2019 19:30

Let her get suspended.

StCharlotte · 26/09/2019 19:31

she now has a flip phone which she needs as she gets a bus to school. She needs to contact me if the bus doesnt show up etc

Actually she doesn't. She can make her own way. Like we did as kids. My parents didn't even drive.

Ask her "what would Greta do?" Grin or maybe not, as she's out of school herself in term time. Forget I said that...

Dare I ask, what's her dad's take on it?

donquixotedelamancha · 26/09/2019 19:31

I think you need to parent her.

What can anyone add to the wisdom of wheresmyliveship? With such a detailed and wise plan in place we can all shut up.

Short of grounding her (she doesn't go anywhere anyway. Just emails her friends from her laptop and does skype/similar) i'm not really sure what else to do.

Put parental controls on and remove access to social media. Let her have 2-3 hours of time for homework, but you log and control her use.

That said, at that point you really are infantilising her. I'd be tempted to let the school sort this one and try building up a more positive relationship. Spend time and reward her for what she does right. Try to get her doing something constructive. She sounds quite numb to the punitive stuff.

Iwantacookie · 26/09/2019 19:32

My dd has her septum pierced and just pushes it up her nose to hide it. A couple of times shes forgot but she hasn't got into trouble for it coz she hides it.

Ringdonna · 26/09/2019 19:32

Why is the child not doing what she is told?

absopugginglutely · 26/09/2019 19:32

I would just take the WiFi off for a week to give her time to think.
She can revise with text books in the mean time.
She won’t be taking exams anyway if she doesn’t grow up fast.
It doesn’t matter if you’re not opposed to piercing personally. You’re and adult and can do as you wish. She is a child who has signed a learners agreement.

Mrsjayy · 26/09/2019 19:33

She is pushing her luck I would let school deal with it and you show support to the school you are right you can't yank it out you can't send her to her room for being naugty she is 16 and being arsey at school let them sanction her.

Passthecherrycoke · 26/09/2019 19:34

I think the point is she’s not going to care if her crap flip phone gets confiscated @StCharlotte

absopugginglutely · 26/09/2019 19:34

One week no internet (don’t tell her that you’re planning on only a week) will stop this nonsense.
Tell her you’ll turn the WiFi on when she takes the silly ring out.

passionfruit11 · 26/09/2019 19:35

I would let her get suspended. She has to learn and unfortunately it sounds as though there's no real consequences at home so at least the school will be able to teach her that lesson

Passthecherrycoke · 26/09/2019 19:35

After a week of no WiFi wouldn’t she have been suspended anyway though? I thought OP needed to do something fast to stop that happening

FatBottomGirls · 26/09/2019 19:36

I flip my septum piercing for work. It's called being a grown up. What's her career aspirations? I doubt they'd let her wear it at work?

lljkk · 26/09/2019 19:36

she should get one of those invisible holders.

Personal expression always has limits. Some of the limits are always stupid ones. Just tolerate them during school hours; it's less than 33% of her waking time. Not worth the aggro she's causing everyone.

Whatsername7 · 26/09/2019 19:36

She doesnt need wifi for revision - she can use her CGP guides or her own notes. She is doing herself no favours by being so stubborn.

Fairenuff · 26/09/2019 19:37

Wifi she needs for revision.

So let her have it from 5pm til 8pm. Then turn it off.

She's playing you.

JustOneSquareofDarkChocolate · 26/09/2019 19:38

My parents paid my sister £500 to remove her nose piercing and get rid of her dreadlocks. She was 19 so no repercussions at university but they couldn’t stand the look. Turns out it was enough money to trump her desire to express herself (this was 20 years ago so a shitload of money for her)

Alwaysgrey · 26/09/2019 19:39

Take all privileges at home outside of study. I also second the poster who says removal her socialising for peers at lunch (why should she have the privilege of socialising with friends when not complying with the rules). Where did she get the money for the piercing?

StCharlotte · 26/09/2019 19:39

I think the point is she’s not going to care if her crap flip phone gets confiscated @StCharlotte**

Agreed - until the bus doesn't turn up.