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DP’s stonewalling is destroying me

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LetsSeeIfThisNameIsTaken · 26/09/2019 09:07

(Apologies for posting this in AIBU, it gets the most traffic and I’m desperate to speak to someone about this)

Hi,

I’m looking for advice from any of you who have experienced stonewalling in your relationships/marriages, and whether or not you can tell me that there’s some miraculous light at the end of the tunnel for this ‘behaviour’ to correct or reverse itself.

Currently on day 3 of not speaking to DP since he stonewalled me during what should have been an easy going, simple, honest and open conversation on Monday night. What we spoke about isn’t relevant, as he’ll stonewall me over literally anything remotely serious or important, or about us, or about me being upset, angry or annoyed over something.

I opened the conversation as placidly and nicely as possible. It really should have been something that was over and done with and dealt with within 5 minutes, but classic DP reverted to his usual tactics of shutting down, ignoring me, not even looking at me, just staring at his phone and channel flicking and not saying a word in response, acting as though as I wasn't even in the room with him, although he could blatantly hear me becoming more upset thanks to him blanking me. As a result of him doing this (and this happens every time he treats me this way), I grow more irate and start to lose my temper as I fight to be heard and understood, and battle for his attention, so although I start conversations by treading on eggshells and speaking as gingerly as possible, I end up losing sight of the original problem as his stonewalling takes a hold of me and I become incredibly pissed off.

I woke up on Tuesday morning, following nothing been resolved or put to bed, and sent him a message about it. A tactic he claims he finds easier to deal with, though he doesn’t respond to my messages either, and doesn’t bring it up when he gets home, so it’s just another way of him avoiding me and the issues at hand.

I basically reiterated the original issue, and once again, for the thousandth time, told him that the way he treats me during discussions isn’t ok. He ignored my message, came home, nothing was said about it, we spent Tuesday evening in silence and he got up and went to work yesterday, came home, and again, nothing said. I ended up going to him last night and asking him if he was planning on apologising to me and explaining himself, to which he just shook his head, all whilst not looking at me. I asked him if his respect for me is that low, that he truly thinks ignoring me is acceptable, and he told me to ‘leave him alone’ as he was going to bed soon. He’s gone to work this morning without saying goodbye, and I suspect this evening will be a repeat of the last two nights.

DP went for counselling regarding his awful communication problems last year. It was via the NHS therapy for you services, so only a 6 course session, but he claimed it gave him some tools to help him open up, see things from my perspective and not shut down, though evidently it didn’t do a damn thing, as we’re still stuck in the same rut of him ignoring me, the avoidance, belittling me and him manipulating conversations simply by saying nothing at all.

I just don’t know what to do anymore. We’ve been together for 5 years, and for the first few years, I tried so hard to understand that ‘serious’ conversations must just be difficult for him. So as such, I’ve tried all kinds of different avenues to speak to him. I’ve tried the quiet and gentle approach, I’ve tried having screaming matches, I’ve tried writing letters, leaving them for him then taking myself out so he can read about the issue in peace then discuss it calmly when I returned, I’ve tried sending messages while he was at work so he can read them on the train journey home then talk about it later that evening, I’ve tried telling him to go for a walk mid conversation to get some air, then we’ll speak in half an hour, I’ve tried giving him days until I’ve brought it up again. Nothing works. It’s like as long I never voice my opinions, express any concerns, never talk about anything of any importance, then things are completely fine between us. But the moment I try and open up, I’m instantly shut down and it’s breaking my heart because I don’t know what else I can do, or for how much longer I can expect him to act this way before he wakes up and realises that this isn’t how a responsible, respectful, loving partner should be treating their spouse.

I don’t know if it’s emotional abuse, but I do know that I feel so disrespected, unheard, like my thoughts, opinions, doubts or concerns hold no importance to him, I just feel like I’m not being taken seriously, and frankly like I’m a piece of shit on the bottom of his shoe.

Apart from the stonewalling, he’s generally a good person, and I think that’s why I’ve stuck around so long. But I feel as though I’m reaching my breaking point and that his shitty communication issues are starting to impact my mental health because nothing is ever resolved, and the 1% of times that things are resolved, it's entirely on his terms.

Do chronic stonewallers ever change? Or is it something that’s so deep rooted that they physically can’t change their ways, even if they wanted to?

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TwentyEight12 · 26/09/2019 18:40

This isn’t funny.

Merryoldgoat · 26/09/2019 18:41

What Do you want from the thread @LetsSeeIfThisNameIsTaken?

Honestly. Almost everyone had told you he's abusive (he is) but you won’t accept it. That’s ok, it can take a while

But by your own admission you’re really unhappy - so bottom line is whether he’s abusive or you’re just incompatible, you’re unhappy and there is no reasonable hope of improvement.

I literally don’t understand why you’re still there.

theretheirtheyrenotno · 26/09/2019 18:41

@TwentyEight12 what's not funny? I don't understand?

Isitnearlyweekend · 26/09/2019 18:47

It’s typical domestic violence perpetrator psychological abuse. It’s also a form of control. Please don’t put up with it or brush it under the carpet when he finally apologises or decides to start talking to you. I promise you this is not normal behaviour. He chooses to behave like this. He’s in a position of power within the relationship. Like others have said, get the hell out of there. He won’t change. There are plenty of men out there who will treat you properly x

Really222 · 26/09/2019 18:51

In the horrible days that ex realised I was going ahead with the divorce, I said it’s silence as punishment Angry.

And when forced to be admitted it - he said yes it is in a tortured voice. But it took my divorcing him to say that.

And he still isn’t talking - he ignores any of my messages about the dc. As if I am dead.

The whole thing has really damaged me and my advice to anyone who asks is to get out of that kind of situation ASAP.

Really222 · 26/09/2019 18:51

he not be

TwentyEight12 · 26/09/2019 18:53

@theretheirtheyrenotno

It isn’t funny that you told posters on here that you moderate the MN site, to make us believe that you work for Mumsnet when in actual fact you don’t.

And I do not believe that typos account for it either.

theretheirtheyrenotno · 26/09/2019 18:55

@TwentyEight12 you cannot actually be serious! How long have you been on this site or is this an actual pisstake?

You don't believe it was a typo?

MN moderator please make a comment on this thread to show I'm not a moderator and how a moderator would "look".

theretheirtheyrenotno · 26/09/2019 18:56

@TwentyEight12 no one else believes I'm a moderator so it's not "we" it's just YOU!

theretheirtheyrenotno · 26/09/2019 19:01

@TwentyEight12 a moderator would look like this, this colour (I'm on the App) and with the same type of name .... I made a simple typo!

DP’s stonewalling is destroying me
TwentyEight12 · 26/09/2019 19:04

@theretheirtheyrenotno

Why clearly address a poster and tell them ‘I MN moderate this site and not YOU’?

Only when asked if you could assist the OP by putting them in touch with an organisation to help them as you believe them to be abused, do you start backtracking on what you originally stated as your position with Mumsnet.

theretheirtheyrenotno · 26/09/2019 19:08

@TwentyEight12 I made a fucking error!!!! Jesus you're way paranoid, are you like this in real life.

You're seriously hard work and you are like a dog with a bone!!

Everyone other than YOU knows I'm not "pretending" I'm a moderator!

Come on PPs does anyone else think I was trying to dupe @ChilledBee?

ThirstyGhost · 26/09/2019 19:10

@theretheirtheyrenotno

Best to ignore folk who are just being disingenuous and goady. They'll say they're not doing that of course, it's "just a different way of communicating".

TwentyEight12 · 26/09/2019 19:10

@theretheirtheyrenotno

You also clearly believe that Woman’s Aid is not reputable in some way for a poster who you say is being abused in your view.

Really? You think Woman’s Aid isn’t a valuable resource for abused women?!?!

Jeez

Fluffycloudland77 · 26/09/2019 19:10

I don’t know what this thread is giving you, everyone’s saying he’s abusive but you won’t leave?.

So, this is your life forever then?.

It might be fascinating to you to go over every incident and dissect it & wonder what his reasons are but it’s boring as fuck for the rest of the world.

He does it because he enjoys it.

candycane222 · 26/09/2019 19:12

I know this is AIBU but can we take a cue from John Bercow and just lower the decibels a bit? I think we are forgetting who is most important here. and it isn't any of us in the replies!

candycane222 · 26/09/2019 19:14

Actually OP I think you might be best asking to move this over to relationships. You will get more - ah - undiluted support over there I think!

theretheirtheyrenotno · 26/09/2019 19:14

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madcatladyforever · 26/09/2019 19:14

It's horrendous mental abuse. My ex did this for the whole 20 years of our marriage starting on our honeymoon. My life is great now he's gone. How I wish I had left him earlier. They never change. Sorry.

theretheirtheyrenotno · 26/09/2019 19:17

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HebeMumsnet · 26/09/2019 19:18

I AM THE MODERATOR AND SO'S MY WIFE!

TwentyEight12 · 26/09/2019 19:19

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theretheirtheyrenotno · 26/09/2019 19:19

Oh thank you so much @HebeMumsnet I 💕 you!!

Phew!

theretheirtheyrenotno · 26/09/2019 19:20

@TwentyEight12 have you seen the REAL MN have come on to show you?

She's behind you!!!

OooErMissus · 26/09/2019 19:23

He just has no desire to ever sort things out with me. No matter how far backwards I bend to accommodate him.

He really, really does not like you, does he?

Why would a person stay in a relationship with someone who really doesn't like them?

At what point do you actually say: enough?