Teen advice makes me worried

[ChipOnMyOvary]

I was reading this advice page for teenagers. AIBU to think it is a bit ott?
I find it a bit like girls are expected to put up with male mores. Am I a modern day Mary Whitehouse, or is this like actual grooming of pre-16 girls?

And that the moment you or someone else takes a pic of an under 18 for sexual purpose, and you send it to someone, you're distributing child pornography.

But yes I think Warwick have removed link to it.

And that the moment you or someone else takes a pic of an under 18 for sexual purpose, and you send it to someone, you're distributing child pornography.

Well precisely. Every single thing he is advocating on there is completely illegal for the girls it is targeted at. And many other things are illegal, no matter what your age.

But one of the most unpleasant things, for me, is calling sex 'icky and disgusting' when he's advocating something that really is disgusting. As if to conflate the two in the minds of the girls. Look, sex is pretty disgusting anyway, so this other disgusting stuff is just completely normal.

So sex is icky and disgusting, but we can talk explicitly about fisting, felching, and anal, and then get all coy again about using explicit words and have to substitute 'your bits'.

He is changing the goalposts at lightning speed depending on the impression he wants to give.

Flashing

The act of exposing oneself in public. Either getting your boobs, bums (often called ‘mooning’) or genitals out in public.

Again no hint that it is non consensual to others or a crime.

Ereshkigal

I note he just says boobs, bum, and then the generic 'genitals'.

Is it because explicitly saying getting your penis out in public is an instant red flag to absolutely everybody and changes the entire impression of how fun it all is?

There is absolutely no neutral way of describing getting a penis out in public, is there? It's indecent exposure and it's what sex offenders do.

But boobs, bums, bits...harmless.

The act of exposing oneself in public. Either getting your boobs, bums (often called ‘mooning’) or genitals out in public^

Did any women ever get their vulva out in public?

Never seen it. Never. Have lost count of the number of dicks Ive seen out in public.

So, extremely biaised to include genitals. Very sexist indeed. Highly discriminatory language against women, because completely unfounded.

Flashing = indecent exposure

Yet more illegal bants

These criminals need stringing up, minimising crime, advocating illegal activity, promoting mysogyny

The Morning Star get it.

In their pathetic attempt to seem “down wiv da kids,” those behind such guidance betray themselves as ignorant, porn-addled misogynists.

In its mission to seem relevant, youth-focused and relatable, Warwickshire County Council risks grooming a generation to think that the abuse portrayed in pornography is not only normal, but desirable.

morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/how-sadistic-industry-being-sanitised

Only a sick bastard would approve of a 13yo reading that.

A 13yo reading that site is being sexually abused, it is the very definition of sexual abuse.

There is nothing educational there, it is straight up grooming.

The filters are off and it is time for parents to really get involved, step up and challenge the authorities for refusing to protect children from harm. Education informs, strengthens and equips - it does not damage, it is not a tool for creating and causing harm and injury.

How dare they?

^Is it because explicitly saying getting your penis out in public is an instant red flag to absolutely everybody and changes the entire impression of how fun it all is?

There is absolutely no neutral way of describing getting a penis out in public, is there? It's indecent exposure and it's what sex offenders do.^

But boobs, bums, bits...harmless.

Yes, exactly. I noticed that too.

It's better to be told how to do it safely Datun.

At this point I'm wondering if some of the more "I see no problems here you hysterical harpies" posters would see "How to do necrophilia safely" and be all "well, yes, it's something the youth of today might want to try so best to teach them how to do it safely".

They're quite literally teaching 13 years olds to eat shit. If you think that's sex education as it should be I think you may need to readjust your perspective just a tad.

I hope you know I was taking the piss with that response to Datun, kittens!

Charley50 yes... but I also went on to say that I felt that idve been less likely to agree to it if I'd had more information about it.

They're not providing any of that potentially useful information though, they're just saying "use lots of lube" and lots of people find it pleasurable. No information whatsoever about potential risks, the fact that many girls are coerced into it and find it painful, etc.

Of course! Not entirely sure everyone else is quite on the same page though...

Which bit is that's upsetting?

Of course! Not entirely sure everyone else is quite on the same page though...

(you'll need it)

The language in this section is essentially saying "yeah, but"

I mean yeah, he was violent, but it was kind of her fault for upsetting him, right? So be careful not to upset boys, girls!

There is not a single part of that site that is not absolutely toxic in what it's teaching kids about relationships, and none of it was written with the best interests of girls in minds.

Also the faux matey tone is so obviously forced and awkward that I can't imagine teenagers not finding it absolutely cringeworthy.

Which bit is that's upsetting?

Who is this directed to?

Did any women ever get their vulva out in public?

Never seen it. Never. Have lost count of the number of dicks Ive seen out in public.

Yes it's quite telling that after saying "boobs and bums" they didn't name the "genitals".

Also the faux matey tone is so obviously forced and awkward that I can't imagine teenagers not finding it absolutely cringeworthy.

I thought that too. A lot of the terms seem, to me, to be fairly outdated. The sort of slang that was used decades ago (muff diving, trouser snake).

Surely the teens have a completely new lexicon now. It's all a bit desperate to be cool.

It really is.

Does this man have children ?

I can tell you now that if my dc were identified as bringing this sort of fetishistic talk into school, I'd be inquisitioned.

Its the sort.of talk that would, and bloody should, raise safeguarding concerns and set wheels in motion.

Now those schools, in that area will have a lot.of safeguarding concerns to be raising, all against the same source. Thats if they continue to do their jobs properly, including ss.

Q: how the hell do you tell which child is being seriously abused, from the one thats just read the funky cool porn educational website.

A: they are all being abused.

For those still stating it's the work of one man, some background to why the website was commissioned, who was involved, it's purpose and it's reception:

www.fsrh.org/blogs/etty-martin-on-the-respect-yourself-campaign/
Etty Martin is the Sexual Health Commissioning Manager at Warwickshire CC:
"In 2011 the Respect Yourself team and 20 frontline workers took a study tour to the Netherlands, where we witnessed the benefits of adopting the evidence based sex positive approach that worked so well in Holland. Gaining support for a sex positive vision, with values that reflected the Dutch success story, was helped by the existing working relationships between the health service and local authority. This was especially possible given our familiarity with processes for decision making and governance, and opportunities to disseminate ideas with the senior management teams in each organisation. Although a joint commissioning role, being employed by the local authority provided access to key committees and elected members in a way that may not have otherwise occurred."

Also from the same site "This has resulted in additional Police Crime Commissioner funding to add new features to the website, which will address issues such as pornography, consent, child sexual exploitation and domestic abuse."

From March 2013 (the website has been up for a number of years)
"Early indications show that Warwickshire’s Respect Yourself website is having a positive influence on young people’s attitude towards sex and relationships."
news.warwickshire.gov.uk/blog/2013/03/07/young-people-respect-themselves/

The website isn't the work of one man.

I should have been clearer, as I did realise it wasn’t just down to Jonny, I am curious as to his background though.