To be disgusted at Gogglebox

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When asked how Boris Johnson 'shut up' a woman grilling him, Izzi Warner said, "shoved his knob in her gob."

Her sister then said later on in the show, "I played Tig (Tag) not so long ago. But we called it #MeToo and basically we had to chase each other and either grab somebody's boob or Bum and then say (#MeToo)

AIBU or is this vile?

That's a lazy insult

@moreginrequired They broadcast one of the members of little mix being openly homophobic on the most recent celeb series.

Leon, a wonderful man and June his wife and equal. There should be many more of them and I hope there are.

Cant see the problem tbh. Its mostly tongue and cheek.
And I thought it was funny.

I thought it was funny. but I have a dry sense of humour

I'm fascinated that so many people think "shoved his knob in her gob." is hysterically funny.

And thats the kind of joke people with a dry sense of humour enjoy? I understood a dry sense of humour to be something quite different.

Just watched the clip on The Metro. Unfunny and they're playing up to the stereotype of a thick Northener, seriously annoying.

As somebody who has been a victim or sexual abuse I completely agree that this is absolutely vile and should not be tolerated. Joking is all well and good when you haven't been a victim of such thing. I don't think they are bad people I just think the are uneducated people who haven't had to deal with this sort of thing personally.

Truly excellent post @CuriousaboutSamphire

As somebody who has been a victim or sexual abuse I completely agree that this is absolutely vile and should not be tolerated.

And yet other victims of sexual abuse have said that they are not offended and that humour helps them to cope.

How do you know they haven’t experienced it personally?

And should we all be compelled to only make jokes about things we have personally experienced?

So those who find 'put a nob in her gob' hilarious actually have higher IQs, show lower aggression, and resist negative feelings more effectively than people who turn up their noses at it?

Now that IS funny.

Why should what people say have to be censored? If TV only broadcast the politically correct, the decent, the just, the polite etc. then there wouldn't be any means of discussion, of challenge- there wouldn't be the opportunity for people to decide for themselves what is right or wrong. Maybe Channel 4 left Izzy and Ellie's comments in there on purpose, knowing it might be offensive to some, in order to challenge the viewers thinking of what is tasteful rather than them making that decision for us and taking away that potential for controversy.

Now that IS funny. aka psychology! Often the psychology of survivors!

You could read the peer reviewed research paper, or a precis of it!

www.psychologistworld.com/cognitive/black-humor-linked-to-high-intelligence-study

The sisters are from Leeds- everyone in Leeds loves a rude joke and has a black sense of humour- it's a northern thing. Southerners are a bit like Americans where everything has to be on the surface- irony is also lost on them . Yorkshire humour is dry and deadpan, we are also rarely offended.

Good job @Fresta cos when you start getting the "ooh stereotyping" responses you're going to need a thick skin

Lancashire lass myself!

Oh dear @Fresta I fear that shortly someone will be VERY OFFENDED by your opinion on Southerners.

He he! Well that will just prove my point then!

Finding the stuff that was said and having black humour doesn't compute. For one, it was hardly humour, I mean it's up to individual people what they find funny, but dark humour and now dry humour are slightly more nuanced. Yes, I am a pedantic cunt, but hey ho. The nob in his gob is more blue than black. The #MeToo stuff is not actually humour at all, just someone telling a story about something stupid that they do. You can find that funny, but it's not dark.

Dark humour is generally about managing to mock the victim (by the victim themselves or someone else) in order to make the audience sympathise with them rather than the oppressor. It often has to do with death which is why it has the alternate name of Gallow's Humour.

Dry humour is to do with wit and a healthy dose of cynicism coming from the one doing the humour. Finding the stuff about #MeToo funny does not dry humour make.

And now attack me at your will for being a pedantic fuck, because I am and I don't really give a flying fart.

I wasn't offended, but neither did I think it was particularly funny. I guess Ellie and Izzy just live on a different planet from me!

Lancashire myself. Still think it's unfunny and they're stereotypical "thick Northerners" 🤷

I found it funny. And I also find Gogglebox very entertaining. And I have a PhD thank you very much.

Funny how a lot of the most offended think they are so correct that they can insult other posters' intelligence and taste.
Why is it not OK to make a joke about Metoo but perfectly fine to call pps thick for watching Gogglebox?
As per usual, the ones who consider themselves the most reasonable and intelligent can't debate without name-calling and insults.
Funny that.

Dark humour is generally about managing to mock the victim (by the victim themselves or someone else) in order to make the audience sympathise with them rather than the oppressor. It often has to do with death which is why it has the alternate name of Gallow's Humour. That's not the whole or only definition though! It is also about a tragedy juxtaposed with a trivial thing.... rape and a game of tig.

The trivial thing provides the shock, the catharsis, the altered perception. I REALLY don't agree that it mocks victims, it might seem to, but, heard by someone who 'gets it' it really highlights the various social mores around the subject. It holds up a mirror to the worst of human interactions, allows a moment of relief and a deeper understanding of the human condition.

But I don't think there can be any meeting of minds, agreement between people who do and those who do not 'get' black humour. It's very much a marmite subject, far too emotive! Best left to the "agree to disagree" box.

Do people actually think she really played the game?

No idea. But DH and I had a second moment of giggles trtying to imagine how it came about, what the rules were and how/were it was played!

Seriously? No. It was a recycled joke with #MeToo inserted in place of any number of other largely taboo behaviours (I may have heard a version of it alongside the Hide and Seek Champion jokes)