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To be disgusted at Gogglebox

208 replies

PatricksRum · 20/09/2019 23:11

When asked how Boris Johnson 'shut up' a woman grilling him, Izzi Warner said, "shoved his knob in her gob."

Her sister then said later on in the show, "I played Tig (Tag) not so long ago. But we called it #MeToo and basically we had to chase each other and either grab somebody's boob or Bum and then say (#MeToo)

AIBU or is this vile?

OP posts:
Jillyhilly · 23/09/2019 06:23

“I have a dark sense of humour but this isn’t funny and should not have been shown!”

Oh please. You really don’t have any sense of humour at all if you believe this.

As shown by this thread, victims of sexual abuse can find jokes like this funny. Maybe you don’t. So what? That is only YOUR OPINION. Not everyone reacts in the same way. Humour serves all sorts of purposes, including helping people cope with stuff. How do you know that in some cases survivors of sexual assault aren’t actually helped by laughing at this sort of thing?

Stop insisting, as several people have on this thread, that things be edited out,
banned or not shown because you are personally offended by them. Stop trusting a broadcaster to make correct decisions about the sort of comedy everyone in the country is allowed to see. That is a dangerous path to go down.

Oh and going around po-facedly insisting that nobody laugh at the #MeToo movement because it is so very serious and special and holds some kind of untouchable place in society is not the way to get people on board with it. Absolutely everything is and should be a target for potential comedy. Maybe it makes you uncomfortable, but so what? That is one of the prices you pay to live in a free society.

TheLittleDogLaughed · 23/09/2019 06:30

Totally agree with OP. It’s crass. We have to have some boundaries of what can / can’t be shown on TV.

Jillyhilly · 23/09/2019 06:33

What’s wrong with crass humour being shown on TV?

Helmetbymidnight · 23/09/2019 06:36

theyre proper thick. i suppose its important thick people are represented on tv.

longwayoff · 23/09/2019 06:43

Gogglebox is about people, diverse, amusing, irritating. It's excellent tv as it introduces us to people who live outside our own bubbles. I find both remarks distasteful but IRL would never meet people expressing such views so it's interesting to know they're out there. And I do wish the Malones would take their bloody shoes off.

TheLittleDogLaughed · 23/09/2019 07:20

Jillyhilly depends if you have any boundaries to what you’d laugh at. Personally I do have a limit and the #MeToo game was one. I can think of other times in the past where I’ve thought something has gone too far. Chris Morris’s spoof about pedophiles was another one back in the 90s. That got a lot of complaints. Some things should never be a joke. Do you not have a limit?

Myshitisreal · 23/09/2019 07:27

If you think brass eye was making fun of paedophilia, you really need to watch it again 👀

thebakerwithboobs · 23/09/2019 07:31

I'm all for dark humour, frankie Boyle or Jimmy Carr are some of my favourites but those jokes aren’t even funny.
Totally agree, Owl. This wasn't even said as a joke, it was something she did

You lost me at this OP. Frankie Boyle openly mocked Katie Price's disabled son and he's a favourite but these two throwaway comments about nobody in particular are unacceptable. Wow.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 23/09/2019 07:41

With the amount of crass, terrible crap on tv... this is what everyone is getting upset about?
There have been so many questionable jokes on Gogglebox over the years. It’s not because it’s two women is it?
I suspect it is. I’m sure they’ll lose their jobs by the end of the week.
It’s a disgrace all right, a disgrace that women are constantly bullied and vilified and held to a higher standard than everyone else.

gforg · 23/09/2019 07:51

@abcdeg I was being sarcastic referring to a previous poster who implied only middle class southerners would be offended by it which I though was ridiculous Smile

Ilovecolinjackson · 23/09/2019 07:53

I agree with a pp, at the end of the the day your watching people watching TV.....

It's a bit like earwigging and not liking what you hear. I find that just odd.

Girasole02 · 23/09/2019 08:07

Channel 4 threw the sisters under a bus when they decided to air that clip and I think the backlash they have faced across the media is undeserved. Sure, the comments made were misguided and not appropriate but who hasn't said something stupid in their own home whilst getting carried away?

KUGA · 23/09/2019 08:17

We dont all have the same sense of humour. I didnt give their comments a second thought tbh.

NameChangeNugget · 23/09/2019 08:27

I think you’ve gone out of your way to be offended by this.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 23/09/2019 09:18

We have to have some boundaries of what can / can’t be shown on TV. Be VERY careful what you wish for!

Who sets those boundaries? Mary Whitehouse did a lot of damage, the backlash against her ncluded all sorts of sexist, sorry, liberal, permissive shite.

Vox Pop? Well, Goggle box is a VERY popular, populist programme

Or do you want to be watching uber conservative, non funny, undramatic, safe, inofensive television forever? That is what you will get if you start imposing boundaries and standards over and above the usual legalities!

Think it through: whose sensibilities will be use to set those boundaries!

As both a rape and sexuall harrassment 'survivor' I often use crude humour to exorcise dark thoughts. That what such humour is all about, shocking, jolting, excorcising. It can be cathartic, an act of mental self preservation; it can strengthen a society's moral mores (we ALL found it shocking, no matter whether we found it funny or not); it has been around forever, since humans bgean recording humour, so we must have a place, a need for it - think about the utterly dire, grim 'humour' of the emergency services. Whenever any of that comes to light many are horrified at the savage, inhumane nature of it.

Interestingly there was a piece in Cognitive Processing a couple of years ago that concluded that those who appreciate dark humor may have higher IQs, show lower aggression, and resist negative feelings more effectively than people who turn up their noses at it.

So it could be bad for your health if you can't find anything in it to laugh at!

Bluehues · 23/09/2019 09:24

I agree with you OP about the Me too comment, it’s especially sad that it was women themselves saying it, letting ourselves down as always, 1 step forward 2 steps back (sigh)

BossAssBitch · 23/09/2019 09:56

Who watches this shit.

And OP, you need to look up ‘dark’, ‘sense’ and ‘humour’ up in the dictionary

wichitalinemanswoman · 23/09/2019 10:10

It was funny. Don't watch it if you don't like it.

LochJessMonster · 23/09/2019 10:20

I thought it was funny.

Also The only people damaging the credibility of the #metoo movement are those making false claims. why is this getting so much stick, its 100% true.

PhilSwagielka · 23/09/2019 10:41

Isn't Chubby Brown's shtik basically 'lol niggers'? I don't get how that's funny, but w/e.

I can see both sides of the issue. I'm a rape survivor and I generally don't find rape jokes funny, with some exceptions (e.g. Handbanana in Aqua Teen Hunger Force), but I'm also a fan of Chris Morris, and I've made jokes with my mates about other things like bestiality that would probably offend a lot of people. A lot of people do that. It's just the fact it went on national TV that's the problem - saying that sort of thing is fine when you're joking around with your mates but it might be construed the wrong way if it's on TV and loads of strangers are watching it, do you get me?

PhilSwagielka · 23/09/2019 10:43

@Lovely13 Leon was great! A Jewish Everton supporter like me. I liked the two black women as well, can't remember their names? I think they were friends?

icedgem85 · 23/09/2019 10:51

Internalised misogyny. But what do you expect from such low brow TV? I mean, watching people watching TV, really.

Travis1 · 23/09/2019 11:05

@PhilSwagielka was it Sandy and Sandra? I loved them too. And June and Leon, proper sobbed at the tribute channel 4 did for him.

moreginrequired · 23/09/2019 11:10

Bad taste aimed at sensationalist demo graphics and blame the editing. They wouldn’t voice same opinions on channel 4 news.

I just wonder if their comments had been antisemitic/racist/homophobic would channel 4 have broadcast this?
Thought not Hmm

chicken12 · 23/09/2019 11:50

That's offensive

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