To be disgusted at Gogglebox

[PatricksRum]

When asked how Boris Johnson 'shut up' a woman grilling him, Izzi Warner said, "shoved his knob in her gob."

Her sister then said later on in the show, "I played Tig (Tag) not so long ago. But we called it #MeToo and basically we had to chase each other and either grab somebody's boob or Bum and then say (#MeToo)

AIBU or is this vile?

The hypocrisy on here is astounding.

If you don’t find it funny that’s okay, kindly don’t speak for those of us who have been hurt at the hands of men as if you are speaking for all of us, because you aren’t.

You're not speaking for me either.

I despair of this forum sometimes. The feminists are too busy talking about trans people to step in when a thread that actually highlights the misogyny present in our culture comes up and the few of us who do end up being denigrated as "snowflakes".

I have no issue with the joke being made. I don't think it's funny but I also don't think the girls who made it intended to damage the #MeToo movement. I do have an issue with it being broadcast to an audience full of people who already don't take the movement seriously and see this as something that reaffirms their opinion that the whole thing is one big joke.

And for the record I watch and enjoy Gogglebox.

I found it hilarious too.
Then again, I love Bernard Manning, Chubby Brown and Benny Hill.
And no, contrary to some posters opinions, I'm not the least bit thick.
So shove that in your knickers and twist them.

patricksrum the sexual abuse i suffered didnt make me a victim and i to refuse to allow it to ruin the rest of my life, i can still laugh at smutty jokes. Have you ever watched a film where some one drowned or was killed in a car crash or murdered ? Yes i bet you have, well shame on you then as millions of people around the world have lost family and friends through drownings, car crashes and murders etc yet you watch such deaths as entertainment. We cant walk on eggshells or sack people for mentioning something that upsets others, life happens to everyone

I like the idea of my eldest (11) watching goggle box (Ireland or uk), but don't because pork or horror on it can suddenly catch you off guard and yeah, I wouldn't be thrilled hearing that either!!

I love Googlebox but it crossed a line and shouldn't have been screened.

It clearly mocks victims of sexual abuse. That cannot be dismissed as humour.

Would it mock victims of racial violence or is it just fair game because the victims are women?

@PatricksRum I completely agree with you and normally am a fan of gogglebox!
I found the #metoo comment inappropriate and commented to my family that I thought she was out of order making a joke out of a serious issue.

Leave aside the question of offensiveness how is this funny? Where is the wit, the humour, what is amusing about it?
Some people clearly have a very low amusement threshold. Nice for them perhaps. Slightly bemusing for the rest of us

Have you ever watched a film where some one drowned or was killed in a car crash or murdered ? Yes i bet you have, well shame on you then

Got to be one of the most ridiculous comparisons.
Comparing an actor playing a part in a movie (which I'm not sure would be a comedy if someone was killed in a car crash ) to a documentary where a real person joked about sexual abuse.

I was an abused woman, I was also raped as an adult and long term as a child. I have a dark sense of humour, I don’t get offended because I choose not to. If you don’t find it funny that’s okay, kindly don’t speak for those of us who have been hurt at the hands of men as if you are speaking for all of us, because you aren’t.

Who said they were speaking on behalf of everyone?

Everyone's entitled to say what they want.
Not really. There are laws in place.

Totally agree @LloydBraun Hilarious? I think not. Quite a simple sense of humour if that tickles you.

I can see both sides, to be honest.

It's understandable why anyone would be offended by the tag "game" but I can also get why it could be seen as humourous.

The #metoo movement has rightly been platformed well, it's an important part of our current awareness. These social-media based movements tend to filter down into mainstream in off-line contexts, so I'm not surprised 'jokes' are now informed around it.

Did the girls mean offence? I doubt it. Are they purposefully mocking abuse victims? I really don't think so. Are the girls a bit naive to think a game like that is appropriate? Probably.

I'm personally not offended as such, but I do think their game is in bad taste. But I don't want to censor humour, and I'd hate to not see them on Gogglebox. I enjoy the show!

Outside the world of Mumsnet those kinds of comments are normal. Chill out a bit.
This with bells on.

Hardly 'vile.'

PatricksRum When you say things like it’s not funny because people are sexually abused etc then it does seem like you are speaking on behalf of everyone who has been abused. I’m pointing out that I have been sexually abused for a good chunk of my life, I still can see the humour behind the comments made, say personally it affects you but please don’t speak for all of us that have been abused, we don’t all get triggered by jokes.

Patricksrum have you ever watched The Krays, American crime, Badlands, The changling, i, Tonya or Gone Girl ? Or any any other tv programme or film based on a real crime ? How do you think, say, Laci Petersons family felt about it ?

I'm a bit confused by people referring to it as the girls' joke, one of them told the story and the other one immediately told her how inappropriate it was. I suspect that's why it was left in by the producers, but maybe it wasn't actually that clear if so many people have misunderstood. It's the first mention of #metoo I've heard in ages, which is interesting in itself.

A lot of people are like that these days - as soon as someone says something to them though they’d soon be crying about it calling on the PC brigade!

YABU. It’s what people say in their own homes having a joke etc. Too many snowflakes about. Some people get offended if there’s nobody to offend them these days

Agree with you op but then those are the sort of people that watch that shut as their own lives are probably empty.
It's disgusting and degrading making a mockery of women in this way.

Agree with you op but then those are the sort of people that watch that shut as their own lives are probably empty

That's a bit judgy pants.

My life is quite full and happy...and yet I enjoy Gogglebox. I draw the line at Love Island, though.

I think Channel 4 were being a bit stupid in broadcasting them.

I agree with someone earlier re the Johnson comment. I'd agree even more if it had started with "Knowing him ..." I totally get that maybe their game of tig is funny to them when they've been out drinking, but I don't find it funny. The #MeToo movement has been a long time coming and there are plenty of vile people trying to undermine it. Are they wrong for playing their game? That's up to them, not for me, but god knows I've done more idiotic things than that in the past, but C4 decided to broadcast it and they should have had more sense. There are more than enough funny comments in every episode so they could have easily edited it out with no one bothered at all.

This whole "Well I have dark humour/a sense of humour" thing is so ridiculous. I love Frankie Boyle, doesn't mean there have been times when he's gone so far that it's not been funny and I've wanted to slap him. Mostly I love him. So, do I have a dark sense of humour or am I a little snowflake who gets offended by things that everyone else thinks is funny. Allegedly.

Re nothing being out of bounds when it comes to humour. I agree ... but. A man joking about women being raped. Not funny no matter how he tries to do it. A woman who has been raped making rape jokes? Well they'll be different and come from a place of understanding and experience. Same with many "jokes". Mocking oneself can be hilarious, mocking upwards, also hilarious, mocking down is generally viscious and not funny.

So, the comments they made. As someone who's been sexually abused as a young teenager and raped as an adult, not funny. I'm not offended by the girls, I am annoyed at C4 for being so fucking stupid.

N.b. No victim/survivor speaks for all victims/survivors, but we should all have some respect for each other. I bloody was a victim and I survived, but does that mean it no longer plays a part in my life? No, because you can survive, you can heal but there are scars that never heal and can cause pain out of nowhere. I believe that's true for many of us and for those who've healed with no scars I am really happy for you, but not everyone gets past it completely no matter how hard they try.

Your sense of humour is conservative, nothing wrong with that.
My ils in their 70's thought it was very funny too.
We live in the NW and have a dark sense of humour.

When asked how Boris Johnson 'shut up' a woman grilling him, Izzi Warner said, "shoved his knob in her gob

An effective technique! Sounds like dark humour which is right up my street! Nothing is off limits.

I have a dark sense of humour and the Boris one made me laugh.

But I draw the line at the #MeToo.
Although, that's due to my own personal experience of abuse as a child.
I find it utterly disgusting that people can make jokes about the me too campaign. People don't take us seriously as it is.

This is sexual abuse against women. Plain and simple. I have a great soh but I don't laugh at sexist/racist so called humour because it's not funny and is degrading. I mean Bernard Manning was never funny!! We are better than this people!!