Was ibu to react like this. Should i say sorry

[Anonmummyoftwo]

Honestly it was a reaction i couldnt control. Before i could stop myself it just came out. Was waiting to lift ds5 from school today and chatting with the other mums. One said about her baby going next week for her year vaccines and another mum jumped in and said your really shouldnt my ds never got any of his because her sisters friends dd caught autism from them. Before i could stop myself i let out a laugh and said oh for god sake are you serious. I said you cant catch autism first off and second that bloody crap about the vaccine causing autism has been proven to be a load of crap. She tried to argue her point but i just said look im not listening and went in got my ds and left. A few mums agreed with me but this mum has just messaged me saying shes upset at how i acted and would like me to say sorry infront of the other mums at drop off in the morning. I told her im sorry for upsetting you but i wont say sorry at the school because i think shes being a fool. This is a grown woman whos at least 30 and truthfully i did think she was a smart woman till that. Do people really still think you can "catch" autism from a vaccine

^ totally this!!
Never apologise for making a decision supported by actual scientific fact instead of mumbo jumbo.

It is a great shame that we live in a world where stupid people with idiotic ideas are coddled into believing that they should be taken seriously. That mum should be glad she didn't say that to me in the playground.

Yes! In front of the other mothers at school, tell the anti-vaxxer that you’re very sorry she’s so incredibly naive and stupid.
That should shut her up.

We are all entitled to voice our opinions and tell someone they are wrong but it sounds like you were a bit harsh to her.
Maybe you could have chosen your words and attitude and not upset her but what’s done is done and it’s over.
You know what you did and you have apologised. You don’t have to apologise in front of other mums because it’s none of their concern. Tell her she’s had her apology, so now grow up and get over it and stop being so precious.
We can’t control what others think and how they want to raise their children.
However, because of idiots like her these nasty illnesses are coming back.

Please don’t apologise. You were perfectly reasonable, she needed telling. Attitudes such as hers cause children to die. Well done you, have this from me: 👏👏👏 Unfortunately though sometimes you just can’t argue with stupid. (Bet she voted for Brexit too 😂)

"Sorry I was a little short, my friends child has low immunity and unvaccinated children put them at significant risk of dying, please look at some scientific data before lecturing others on putting their child's life at risk" *tinkly laugh, head tilt ....stay well away

She would have got the same reaction from me. YWNBU

Measles isn’t a jumped-up chicken pox - it can kill children.

You do realise that so can chicken pox? My friend's daughter ended up in the hospital and I was still scared of my son getting it. Thankfully he just had an uncomfortable week rather than a life-threatening condition with it

I believe everyone should have the choice in what to do with their children.

Unless it puts others at risk. Which leaving kids unvaccinated does...

I'm a bit torn, on the one hand, she's probably very unintelligent which isn't her fault, she's a victim to an extent.

On the other hand, she's a danger to society and anti-vaxxers are akin to vermin.

Don’t apologise, I think I’m right in saying that people who don’t get their children vaccinated are causing epidemics of illnesses that haven’t been around for many years, why apologies when it could be your child that picks up a disease that could potentially kill all because of someone being really really ill advised about vaccinations. Well doNe for saying something.

I have a fb friend that’s always posting crap about vaccinations leading to autism. I’m always tempered to just put 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 under her posts, but you can’t teach stupid (and I’m not that much of a bitch). Luckily the other 99.9% of friends are intelligent people, so no fear of her ‘converting anyone’.

Catching autism, that has to be the best line I’ve heard, oh apart from the one autism training session I delivered and someone turned around and asked ‘how many of you have had chicken pox?’ So almost the whole room raised their hands and she said ‘well you are all now at risk of autism because having chickenpox leads to autism’. I have never in all my years training, ever been so gobsmacked at someone’s insistence on such a clearly inaccurate statement. 🤷🏻‍♀️But like I said, you can’t teach stupid!

I think you've handled the whole thing very well OP.

I'm just here now so that yoda can explain what "a YABU comedian idiot" is.

Don't apologise. These anti-vaccination bastards will (and already do) cause a lot of health problems for others.

No, don't apologise. She's the one that needs to apologise to her kids for potentially putting them at unnecessary risk of serious diseases. Jesus, the ignorance of some people 😡

Interesting---- when my dd was born it was right in the middle of the Autism scare. It was a very difficult time to make a decision on MMR. You really had to be there. Not stupidity but concern.

My son was born in the middle of the autism scare - I spoke to my Gp, I trawled around the internet and came to the conclusion that is was all a load of bollox , my son was vaccinated.

I was studying Psychology when the ‘dr’ made his claims.

I took his research as a project - I love a good bit of research - and found it to be so flawed I had to ask my tutor if I was being stupid or was missing something in a so called published piece of research. She reassured me that no, I wasn’t missing anything at all. I really thought it would would be universally poo-pooed as it was just so crap. But there you go...

Fekko, that's fascinating.

Was there additional information available about Wakefield's research methodology by then, or was this quite early on?

What I'm really asking is, should the huge flaws have been obvious right from the beginning to anyone who chose to look? Including to the journal which published it?

Perhaps she should say sorry to her child for putting them at a much higher risk of catching a life threatening illness. Something which you actually can catch.

The research that was published in the lancet in 1998 I believe was his initial work. In 2004 the lancer published an apology saying that they shouldnt have published it at all and that there was a big conflict of interest in the research. Others involved have also backtracked since them.

Now if I remember correctly - it was a very small group of children (about a dozen) - wasn’t it at a kids birthday party and he gave them ice cream to take part (I’ll need to check that bit!)?

Hw scared the beheezus out of parents by declaring an absolute link between mmr and autism. The methodology was nonsense and his theory was just make-believe. He couldn’t have basked on his findings with the ‘research’ yet it set so many hares racing.

I just see if I can dig the original Lancet piece out.

"Say that you’ll apologise for the way you spoke if she will apologise for spreading lies conspiracy theories inaccurate medical information."

This. Although 'Piss off, you demented loon' would work too.

Don’t apologise!!! Xxx

Yes I think the BMJ came under fire for allowing such obviously corrupt research to be published. I believe the conflict of interest was that the research was funded by a group of parents of autistic children who wanted to sue the vaccine producers. Seems legit............