to ask you to read Operation Yellowhammer documents and see for yourself how Brexit will impact you

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Just been released

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/831199/20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf

And I wonder what Number 15 is. It's been redacted.

So much to highlight:

Impact of food and fuel prices on poorer people.
Impact exacerbated due to winter flu issues at that time of year
Lorries delayed and flow reduced to 40 - 60%

And I'm only on page 1

Well Christmas looks jolly

This is August. I wonder if there is a current document of reasonable assumptions about what would happen if we leave now with No Deal.

Food shortages
Medicine shortages
Price increases
Failure of social care
Social unrest
Disregarding the rule of law

Because, 'reasons'.

"Daily Mail focusing on the fact that is says there won't be food shortages.

Top rated comment is 'Nothing comes without pain'

I honestly don't get this mentality"

They don't believe it will be their own pain, so they don't care.

You know all the little islands that are always on the One Show begging for more people to go and live there?

Please, pretty please, with a super juicy cherry on the top, can we round up all the people who want No Deal and give them one or two of those islands? Any remainers on the islands could be re-settled in Scotland. They'd like it there. We can call it Little England and if we feel generous around Christmas time, when they realise how badly fucked they are without the EU, we could send them food hampers.

Live tweeted thread of Gove at the Brexit select committee last week, first saying that the yellowhammer document was worst case scenario and then contradicting himself an hour later and saying it was base case (long thread but entertaining - even arch Brexiteer Peter Bone was “...”)

twitter.com/iandunt/status/1169566180056731648?s=21

Rosamund Urwinn@RosamundUrwin*

Just for clarity on Yellowhammer, as I am seeing some incorrect things about.
This is the same version The Sunday Times had in mid-August.

However, the header of that was different.

It said: "HMG Planning Assumptions" then "Base scenario"

The big benefit of brexit is:

bylinetimes.com/2019/09/11/brexit-disaster-capitalism-8-billion-bet-on-no-deal-crash-out-by-boris-johnsons-leave-backers/

Some very rich people are going to become far richer. Woo hoo

I have two DCs who are reliant on daily medication which keeps them alive. They literally couldn’t survive without it. I feel sick at the thought of shortages of medicines.

The leak to the DUP when Teresa May was close to a deal spoiled everything. We could all be gone absolutely dry by now if it wasn’t for Arlene Foster and her unrealistic demands!! So hard to swallow when you see what will happen now

I might have to walk more rather than drive and spend more on food. For a few weeks.

Very worst case scenario with fuel - my husband would have to cycle to work instead of driving.

I honestly cannot see any further impact to us. We are lucky not to need any regular medications and I really feel for those who do and are concerned.

To sum it up, the most likely no-deal scenario is that:

• There will be shortages of everything, including food, medicines, fuel and possibly safe drinking water;
• Gibraltar will turn into an open-air landfill site;
• Kent will be a giant lorry park;
• There will be riots; and
• All this will last for up to 6 months before we get some sort of order imposed.

Lovely. I'd better buy Advent calendars now and start saving ration tokens for my wedding cake then. Or converting the garage into a razor-fenced chicken coop.

And then of course the knock on...no petrol, fewer teaching staff, hospital staff, supermarket staff. I know in my LA we would struggle to staff schools as we all drive a distance to work.

'Riots in the street', eh? That'll be fucked off citizens hunting down Brexit voters.

This will happen.

this does not even touch how this affects business now - the public have no idea of the time and cash this is all taking to get extra stock in to continue supply to important customers . However the fault is not necessarily the fault of Boris - as Rory stewart said the other day - there was a deal on the table - and it would have given us a slow and controlled exit - but parliament ( despite signing article 50 ) would not allow the agreement . At that point we should have had an emergency coalition government to iron out the problems with that agreement. But no - they kept voting it out . I am a passionate remainer but even though I think a lot of the problems were caused 1) by offering a public vote in the first place and 2) all the electorate who did not vote .
The actual portion of the voters that actually want Brexit was only about 36% and there is NO way that Brexi should have been triggered on that percentage .

Also having such a opposition party who cant even decide what they want ? Now saying they want to tweak the agreement and then recommend to their voters to vote against that agreement they will have just renegotiated - it just all beggars belief.

I've given up expecting Leave voters to be sensible. Their thinking baffles me and scares the hell out of me at the same time.

If this document had been available before the referendum, I wonder what the outcome would have been? worried that in fact it would make no difference

Its mid September actually.

What's the point? The Brexiters in here will just say it's Project Fear, even though it's the ACTUAL GOVERNMENT who wrote it.

@Rubbishtimeofnighttobeup they don't give a shit, because they don't think it'll happen to them. I've said elsewhere that Brexiters have laughed at me for being worried about my meds.

BigChocFrenzy

That's what gets me: that the people who love Boris Johnson and want a No Deal Brexit can't see the absolute contempt that the current government has for them. They change the header on a document that a national newspaper has already had, and they expect what? That they'll just be able to go "FAKE NEWS!!!!!!" and their supporters will love it? I mean, that's basically it. They see No Deal supporters as morons who will lap up everything they say, and they've successfully moved the goalposts so that anyone who doesn't want No Deal doesn't count anymore because they're not "the People" .

even though it's the ACTUAL GOVERNMENT who wrote it

Naaah, it was the REMOANER CIVIL SERVICE, remember? It's just scaremongering. From whingeing snowflakey traitorous remoaners.

It'll be fiiiiiiiinnnnnne because, reasons.

This is just absolute madness

Just read that and people seem to think I'm crazy when I ask if they've stocked up for Brexit

I know I'm not the only one with that horrible feeling in my stomach!

Ugh, I'm so angry on your behalf, PhilSwagielka.

DP has bought 2kg of Coco Pops from Amazon at a bargainous price, so we're all sorted. We'll keep them in the loft so the starving pensioners can't get at them.

I think I might be able to manage without anti-depressants, but I doubt it.