To say this needs sorting ASAP to the preschool staff?

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Ds 3 goes to the school preschool - he will be in their foundation year after summer next year.
Lovely preschool he’s settled fantastically well lovely staff etc. Monday he came home his pants were dirty and his bum super sore from not being wiped properly. I explained to staff he will try and wipe it himself but he can’t do it properly could they check him and I’ve sent in some wet wipes for him.
Today hes again in dirty pants, he had a poo after the register this morning he said so he’s been like that all day! Poo on the back of his top and again he’s really sore.
Aibu to think most 3 year old would need helping out with this and to say to the preschool it needs to sorting?!

@sheshootssheimplores again I'm staggered to read that someone has a problem with what I've said
It's based on fact. Children who start school with poor self care skills, generally learn super fast when encouraged to do things themselves. They are visibly very proud and rightly so.

@velocitygirl7 they're not starting school. They're 3.

Who said useless? Just misguided.
I see it every. single. year. Children having their coat taken off for them, parents putting it on their peg, putting their water bottle away for them etc etc
It's sad to watch, as most are so capable of doing it themselves!!
I'm always diplomatic, I'm very aware (being on here helps!!) how easily offended some parents are

I agree with op, practice at home.

Some 3 year olds can wipe their bums fine. It takes practice.

They start at my school at 3. Out of last years class of 26, most needed no help in the toilet. The few that did, had cracked it within a few weeks of starting and just needed a little guidance.

Nokidshere Primary teachers and SfLW are legally not allowed to help wipe a child. To imply that it's a choice and an uncaring, negligent one at that is offensive. We assist the child to do the best job they can themselves if they've had an accident and then if necessary make a phone call home.

I'm a extremely popular member of staff, infamous in our local community for being endlessly kind and patient with the children who come to my class. Not blowing my own trumpet but I have a huge box full of cards, notes etc confirming this. So yep, obviously no place in early years...

In that case I'm even more surprised that you think "the only ones that can't" are the ones that "aren't encouraged" by their parents.

Because you know that isn't true right?

@rededucator I'm not paid handsomely for what I do but I'm passionate about early years and treat my class with huge amounts of care & compassion.
It's a tough time of year setting everyone in, I'm permanently exhausted throughout September and a couple of comments on here have really hurt!!

Nokidshere Primary teachers and SfLW are legally not allowed to help wipe a child. To imply that it's a choice and an uncaring, negligent one at that is offensive.

That is absolutely NOT true. Please show me the legislation for anywhere with under 5's (or any other age actually) that says that.

The preschool my DS goes to takes children from age 2. He has been toilet trained for 3 months now but definitely needs help wiping his bum.

Nokidshere I stayed Primary school.

*stated

My almost five yr old still has problems wiping their bum!

Expecting a three yr old to do it accurately is ridiculous.

Fair enough, they don't want to be changing nappies when they're that age but if they don't have enough staff to help then that is their problem.

Lots of private nurseries have an EYT in the pre-school room so can be working on a 1.13 ratio too.

Most 3year olds need help with this. The school absolutely should be supervising and assisting.

Nokidshere I stayed Primary school

So 4. It's neither here nor there. Not all children have the dexterity to be able to perform personal care, even in primary school. They need help and support. And it is not only children who haven't been encouraged by the parents.

Nokidshere that is categorically untrue. As long as you have parental permission, you can help wipe/clean/undress a child. Most schools send a form out before they start nursery/reception asking parents to consent to staff changing/wiping a child. It's usually in with the medical forms.

Intimate care can and must be carried out at any age if required for the child to access education.

@Mitebiteatnite I think you tagged the wrong person. I know it's not true.

And speaking as an EYP, excluding any additional needs or physical disabilities, it is almost exclusively children who haven't been taught independence. I see children starting primary school still having their coat and shoes put on for them by parents.

@velocitygirl7, can I ask what type of school yours is? It's a genuine question. I don't know any schools that start at 3 you see, and I'm honestly surprised at your comments. I'm not doubting your experience, but it's so at odds with my experience of my own, otherwise very independent and self-sufficient just 3 year old (and absolutely encouraged to be so), and his peers. Are we talking about young 3 year olds, or nearly 4 year olds? And what's the demographic?

Sorry nokids, I meant to tag rededucator

I had pretty bright children. Adept at quite a lot of things.

I have pretty bright grandchildren. Adept at quite a lot of things.

None of them were/are adept at bottom wiping at 3.

Mitebiteatnite I can tell you it is categorically true for Primary schools in my local authority. Some SfLW have gone through specific training to assist ASN children. If I were to do it I'd face disciplinary action. Interesting to here other PS are different, I was not surprised to hear EYFS was.