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Child maintenance from rich ex boyfriend

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Hanny3 · 05/09/2019 10:52

I recently found out I'm three months pregnant. I'm no longer together with the father. I will be raising the child by myself as the father doesn't won't anything to do with the child.

He has said he will pay child maintenance. He's a very rich guy and comes from a very rich family. He said to me when where together that he earned £15,000 per month after tax (by working for his dad) and that he had other incomes from his investments. He also has a large personal fortune.

He has said he will pay £1,273 a month in child maintenance. He claims that is the maximum he has to pay according to law.

I'm a student and don't have much money. I have asked if he would be willing to pay more the first two years so I can really focus on finishing my studies. He said no.

My mom and my friends are telling my if I take it to court I would get more per month, and are encouraging me to do so. My ex on the other hand says I would get less if I take it to court.

So I was wondering if anyone knows if I would get more per month if I took it to court? And I'm I totally unreasonable if I think he should pay more the first two years while I'm a student?

OP posts:
IrmaFayLear · 06/09/2019 16:01

www.questia.com/newspaper/1G1-109916700/revealed-million-pound-lifestyle-of-becker-s-lover

I posted upthread about Boris Becker's broom cupboard tryst which resulted in a daughter. If 30 seconds results in a Kensington apartment and millions of support, I'm surprised there aren't hundreds of thousands of women trying to lure wealthy men into broom cupboards. How did this woman get such a generous package ?

AryaStarkWolf · 06/09/2019 16:02

These seems to have descended into a fanny waving competition with no sign of the op....

Grin

Embarrassing

Genderfree · 06/09/2019 16:04

I can’t quantify the risks because I haven’t spoken to the op or gathered the necessary information and evidence. I can only post on how law firms work. No reputable law firm is going to rubber stamp a course of action if they don’t think they aren’t going to be paid or the client doesn’t have a reasonable chance of success. No reputable law firm is going to go straight for the kill either. I worked for a law firm in a family law department where some clients didn’t have a pot to piss in, they didn’t put them in a poorer financial position then they when started.

Schedule 1 is increasingly being used by single parents, mainly mums and mainly mums with very little money. To discount it completely would be foolish especially when it can be used as a bargaining tool. I may be wrong, things may have changed and I’d have to check, but I think that mediation still attracts legal aid. A maintenance agreement can be made during mediation and although not enforceable, if breached can be used to show unreasonable behaviour (applicable to a costs order) in an application for costs durIng a Sch 1 application. A maintenance agreement during mediation can also lead to a Consent Order that can be taken to court and made enforceable.

But hey what would I know.

Genderfree · 06/09/2019 16:07

Jubba I can’t do that because I don’t know what a sub 1 is

nononever · 06/09/2019 16:14

Yup Wherearemymarbles. I'd just like to also jump into the fray and add my relative's last company was worth into the billions. Not gonna name any names but imagine a company that sounds like Flamazon!

I'll raise you my relative's company, rhymes with crapple Grin!

This thread is getting utterly outrageous over a hypothetical scenario where no-one has a clue about the real facts.

choli · 06/09/2019 16:27

The fact that she said it is so she can study in london without working does no favours either as living in London to study and refusing a part time job not moving next to family is a lifestyle choice
Maybe OP wants to stay in London because that is where the father of her child lives, in the hope that he will develop a relationship with the child. Some men do, after the birth if they see the child. If she moves away it will be out of sight out of mind.

I don't think that is unreasonable.

tweebookworm · 06/09/2019 16:38

@choli he already said he wants nothing to do with the child so won't be seeing it to form a bond

choli · 06/09/2019 16:50

tweebookworm
Yes, I know, but sometimes men change their mind about it after the child is born.

fruitbrewhaha · 06/09/2019 16:51

The OP is long gone.

I'm not surprise really.

Hopefully she is studying law.

Woarr · 06/09/2019 16:59

Or maybe the babies father isn’t that rich after all ... maybe he can’t actually afford to give more than he has offered.

Some men can be full of shit when they want to get laid .

In any case OP needs to look after herself .

OP , if you are still reading , only you know what has happened here , so don’t feel judged by anyone . You just do what is right for yourself and the baby , and make sure you look after yourself .

tweebookworm · 06/09/2019 17:00

@choli then the father can travel to see the child. There is no need for OP to stay in London

Woarr · 06/09/2019 17:01

And I don’t think it is kind for some of the posters here to be having a snipe at someone who is in early pregnancy . This young lady is going to be a mum and is probably having a tough time.

The site is called mumsnet not bitchynet!!

VladmirsPoutine · 06/09/2019 17:02

This thread is still an eye-opener. Imagine how worn down some women are that they consider that the 'bare minimum' should suffice and that if CMS declares it thus it renders it morally right. Legally, well absolutely. But imagine your dad being a millionaire and your mum is having to count out her pennies in Tesco to buy a loaf of bread and some value cheese so you can eat that evening.

If rich men want to flaunt their cash in order to parade with women with whom they expect sex then they need to take their own precautions of ensuring they don't become fathers in the process. Contraceptive failures happen and some women seek these men out regardless, but it takes two to make a baby. Maybe leave your Porsche at home and go for drinks with a £20 note instead of giving it the big "After tax I earn £15k".

Genderfree · 06/09/2019 17:02

What this thread has turned into is ( in no particular order)-

-The op has got pregnant deliberately
-It wasn’t a proper relationship, and even if it was, she isn’t married and it doesn’t really count
-if it wasn’t a proper relationship she should be grateful for any crumbs offered

  • poor baby boy didn’t want a child so if she didn’t want an abortion it’s down to her
-she shouldn’t go to university, she can’t afford it. Her aspirations should be curtailed, his shouldn’t - despite her aspirations she’s obviously lazy and doesn’t want to work.
  • contraception was down to her and she lied
-he’s her baby daddy therefore she a slapper -kershing
  • honey trap
  • gold digger
  • he’s a victim ( presumably he fell on her vagina)
  • there’s no law that says she entitled to more then the CMS maximum and if there is, it isn’t right and she won’t get it anyway and that particular law can’t be used because of costs init, and if it can well she can’t depend on it and it cant possible be used as a bargaining tool
  • I’ve been told otherwise by someone with legal knowledge but we can safely ignore this because I’m morally superior and who could possibly know more than me.
  • I shagged a lowlife who doesn’t give a fuck about his children and everyone should suffer like me and not explore their legal options and make an informed decision.
  • someone had provided an example where Sch 1 has been used so we will take the piss and slap ourselves on our uninformed backs. Oh how clever we are.
  • he’s going to hide his assets and wage so let’s not bother.
OrangePowered · 06/09/2019 17:06

She'll be raising her own child that she wants and he doesn't so it's not like she's doing him a favour. She's going into it knowing that he's not interested in being a parent. He's fulfilling his duty by financially supporting the child. He shouldn't have to pay the OP a salary for merely fulfilling the parenting role that she's chosen to take on.

If he didn't want a child then he should have used contraception. He is not fulfilling his duty at all, morally. He is simply abiding by the law.

She hasn't really 'chosen' to take it on. She hasn't bought a baby at a shop. She's pregnant. She can't simply make it so she isn't pregnant unless she has an abortion, and that might be a worse choice for her than having a baby she doesn't really want. And he skips off and sets up a direct debit and leaves all the difficult choices to her.

Jubba · 06/09/2019 17:10

@Genderfree

Spelling mistake. I’m having chemo and my fingers sometimes don’t work correctly. My apologies.

Genderfree · 06/09/2019 17:10

Today 16:51 fruitbrewhaha

  • “The OP is long gone.

I'm not surprise really.

Hopefully she is studying law”

Yep a 100 times.

Jubba · 06/09/2019 17:12

@fruitbrewhaha 😂😂😂. And @nononever. Too true!

Jubba · 06/09/2019 17:13

@Genderfree

However you seem intelligent enough to of understood that what I wrote was a mistake. Rather than sarcastically put me down.

Then again. Maybe not.

Genderfree · 06/09/2019 17:16

Sorry for that Jubba, no need to apologise. Cancer doesn’t discriminate does it, no one is immune to it. Had a scare my self recently, not an entirely negative diagnosis and my mum died of it.

Ask your question again if you want I will try to answer.

RolyWatts · 06/09/2019 17:17

@genderfree

Your last post is why I stopped posted. Its just so thoroughly depressing.

RolyWatts · 06/09/2019 17:18

Posting..... Not posted. Fat fingers

Genderfree · 06/09/2019 17:28

RolyWatts lm not going to scroll back it’s my wedding anniversary and the posts on here are really upsetting and the venom against the op is disgusting. Hopefully you agree with me.

nononever · 06/09/2019 17:31

Wishing you the best outcome for your chemo @Jubba Flowers.

Yes this thread is depressing for all sorts of reasons however, I am struggling to believe it's real or indeed the facts are an accurate representation of the whole sorry mess.

Genderfree · 06/09/2019 17:35

Roly I spent a lot of time, over and above my contract, helping people like the OP, some of these posts are absolutely disgusting, misogynistic and sexist bs. There legal knowledge is laughable though.

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