Child maintenance from rich ex boyfriend

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I recently found out I'm three months pregnant. I'm no longer together with the father. I will be raising the child by myself as the father doesn't won't anything to do with the child.

He has said he will pay child maintenance. He's a very rich guy and comes from a very rich family. He said to me when where together that he earned £15,000 per month after tax (by working for his dad) and that he had other incomes from his investments. He also has a large personal fortune.

He has said he will pay £1,273 a month in child maintenance. He claims that is the maximum he has to pay according to law.

I'm a student and don't have much money. I have asked if he would be willing to pay more the first two years so I can really focus on finishing my studies. He said no.

My mom and my friends are telling my if I take it to court I would get more per month, and are encouraging me to do so. My ex on the other hand says I would get less if I take it to court.

So I was wondering if anyone knows if I would get more per month if I took it to court? And I'm I totally unreasonable if I think he should pay more the first two years while I'm a student?

hellsbellsmelons I think you and swing are in agreement

@hellsbellsmelons @swingofthings a girl I used to work with who was casually sleeping with a rich guy she kinda knew, told me she used to puncture the condom wrappers (with the condom inside) with a safety pin. She lied to the guy about being on the pill too.
She got pregnant by him in the end!
How do I know all this? Because she was so proud of herself she snared a rich man.

So what... is it a crime to seek out a rich or financially stable partner or father for your children? Not everything in life is about 'finding true love'. Heavens! So many bitter women who get a few chicken nuggets and a £2 a week reflecting on their own decisions.

Jubba I’ve already explained the risks.

As to whether it’s possible case law has establish the clear principle that an interim order for the payment of the applicant’s costs, for the benefit of the child, may be sought in an application under Sch 1.

I tried to explain this earlier but it fell on deaf ears. Just because someone appoints legal representation doesn’t mean litigation follows. There’s such a thing as negotiation, mediation, Calderbank Offers, Consent Orders. Why advise someone to bend down and hold their ankles.

I was appalled at swingofthings assuming the OP was one of those women who did this on purpose.
We can't possibly know that.
I'm not in agreement with that statement at all!

Vladmirs - not really. It's just about having some kind of moral code. Having been in situations where people have tried to take advantage (this particular one is biologically impossible but many others aren't) just shows some people will do anything for money.

So what... is it a crime to seek out a rich or financially stable partner or father for your children?
This guy is not a partner not a father. It's not a crime to do so, it's incredibly shallow though and selfish. Most kids would rather have a loving father than one that pays much especially when the money is used by the mother so she doesn't have to work.

My first post should have said fool, not full!

@VladmirsPoutine nothing wrong with that. But it is wrong to see them as a meal ticket and expect them to support you for anything more then the child's needs once the relationship is over. It's not a crime but behaviour like this should hardly be encouraged or admired

I take that all on board, absolutely. But given his earnings he could certainly pay a lot more that £1200. Even if that's some people's take home pay does not mean we should aim for the lowest common denominator. If my dad was a gazillionaire and I was struggling there'd be questions that need answering.

The rights and wrongs of OP wanting to be 'supported' are up for debate. But I don't think anyone earning that amount of money, whatever CMS says, should be grateful just because there are women out there receiving £2 a week.

So what... is it a crime to seek out a rich or financially stable partner or father for your children?

I think it's pretty shitty to knowingly engineer a situation where a child is likely to be resented and rejected by a father who never wanted them. Of course contraception failures happen and if that does happen I think it's unreasonable for a man to expect an abortion (unless this is something they agreed on previously). But deliberately getting pregnant and putting your financial stability above your child's emotional wellbeing is crap. And the child is the one who suffers. Abandoned by a feckless father who would have preferred it if you'd never been born and being raised by a selfish mother who doesn't see anything wrong with harming and using others (the child included) as a means to her own end.

That's why I think it'd be in everyone'sbest interest for men who don't want kids to take contraception into their own hands. Not just for their own sake but for the sake of the potential children (and the taxpayer).

I tried to explain this earlier but it fell on deaf ears. Just because someone appoints legal representation doesn’t mean litigation follows. There’s such a thing as negotiation, mediation, Calderbank Offers, Consent Orders. Why advise someone to bend down and hold their ankles.

I didnr fall on deaf ears. You were just repeating what I said.

But as we can see you will not answer where the OP is going to produce the money for legal fees from.

You keep saying 'children's act' and 'sched 1'. But it doesnt matter if op cant risk financial ruin by pursuing it.

@Genderfree. Well done for being one of the few sane people on here and for posting facts. Some of these posts have made me feel so sad. Hope you are ok OP. 🌺

Banangana

• “Gender-free You can tell your family member whatever you wish.”

I was being sarcastic. My family member earns more than the OPs ex’s alleged income by a lot. She’d just laugh and say her son is entitled to benefit from her ex’s salary and whoever thinks otherwise has low standards and isn’t capable of critical thinking.

Likethisone I can’t help it if you have comprehension problems and a poor understanding of the law. Where on earth have you mentioned negotiation, mediation, Consent Orders, Calderbank Offers. You haven’t have you.

What would I know, My legal training and working experience is obviously only a figment of my imagination.

My family member earns more than the OPs ex’s alleged income by a lot. She’d just laugh and say her son is entitled to benefit from her ex’s salary and whoever thinks otherwise has low standards and isn’t capable of critical thinking.

Well, my family member earns a lot more than yours does (we're talking in the millions here). She started her business as a homeless single parent of three 15 years ago. She's never had a penny from the children's dad and prides herself on her independence. She'd agree with me and thinks your opinion is stupid.

@Genderfree

So your relative's baby's father has a similar income to £180k per year, but he invests over £100k per year, puts 'a very high amount' into his pension, and pays your relative 'far, far more than the amount offered to the OP'.

Does he have a money tree, too, because that sounds like he'd have nothing left to actually live on.

no I said she had a similar income to her child’s father not the OPs ex. Sorry if it wasn’t clear.

Oh and Banana she sold her world renowned London business years ago for millions. Still does commissions a couple of times a year for large multinational and national companies. They actually contact her and she can name her price. Her ex isn’t self employed but works for a well known company and is on a very very high salary. They are both in the creative sector but different specialisms.

Bananagana so my opinion is stupid is it. Well yes plenty of people say that some aspect of the law is stupid, including myself. Doesn’t mean my opinion based upon the how the law works is wrong does it.

Like to see your family member stand up in court and tell a judge they’re wrong. What a hoot, but, but I’m rich I can’t possibly be wrong. In fact I’ve seen it, especially in family law cases. It never finished well for the person being self opinionated about something they knew very little about. It took me all my time not to smirk.

Likethisone I can’t help it if you have comprehension problems and a poor understanding of the law. Where on earth have you mentioned negotiation, mediation, Consent Orders, Calderbank Offers. You haven’t have you.

Ita comprehension that is lacking. You keep saying 'no one can guarantee anything'. Which is what I said. I didnt say that I gave a long list of options and outcomes.

But still cant answer about the risk.

You just keep saying 'no one can guarantee it's

If you feel comfortable advising someone on a low income, who wants to finish uni asap to do something very very risky that could financially ruin them, carry on.

Just dont expect those of us in the real world to not challenge you.

Oh and Banana she sold her world renowned London business years ago for millions. Still does commissions a couple of times a year for large multinational and national companies. They actually contact her and she can name her price. Her ex isn’t self employed but works for a well known company and is on a very very high salary. They are both in the creative sector but different specialisms.

I wasn't trying to play relative top trumps. I was trying to point out that online, anyone can quite easily claim to know anyone or be anyone they wish in an attempt to strengthen their argument.

These seems to have descended into a fanny waving competition with no sign of the op....

Yup Wherearemymarbles. I'd just like to also jump into the fray and add my relative's last company was worth into the billions. Not gonna name any names but imagine a company that sounds like Flamazon!

The men should know what they are getting into when they discharge their semen into attractive women .

It’s a two way thing , rich men want to have sex with beautiful women , then moan about entrapment when the women get pregnant .

There’s always a risk the women get pregnant while these men have their joy fabulous sex , possibly not getting the same joy if they weren’t flashing the cash and the big talk about their earnings etc.

They are as much to blame because they use their finances to get the sex they want as much as some ( but not all ) women will be after for them for their money .

If the rich man is worried about entrapment perhaps he should keep schtum about his fortune , and rather than discharging semen wherever possible whilst flashing the cash , wait for the woman he does wish to impregnate !

Woarr
I agree with you.

@Genderfree. May be sought. Not 100% sought. That’s the difference

You show me where a sub1. Cost under £1000