To have lost all respect for Leave voters?

[KennDodd]

It's their fault we're in this mess and I can only see it getting worse.

@KatherineJaneway

Why aren't you angry at the people who didn't bother to vote?
Actually I have a lot of respect for people who didn't vote in this (not didn't bother). They were honest enough to realise it was too complicated a question for the average voter to get their head around and that they didn't know enough. Dominic Cummings has said most of the fucking cabinet didn't even understand what the single market was, and this was after the referendum. Leave didn't bother campaigning on SM or CU because most people (unless they were experts) didn't have a clue what they were.

So, anyway, I much more respect for none voters that those who tottered off to the polling station to vote to overturn the status quo without a fucking clue what any of it meant.

I agree the Remain campaign was poor

The very fact was that many people didn’t want their lives to remain the same they wanted a change as things has been so hard for so long seemed to bypass many within the Remain campaign- how could they be so out of touch with voters

And as for the bus it was ridiculous but remains response was so poor different figure Ms given by different MP’s they squabbled about this and the Leave campaign shrugged their shoulders and said well there you go and went on campaigning it was like a trap set for them that they fell into

YANBU. It was obvious at the time of the vote that the plan of action following a leave vote was unclear, which is like leaping into the abyss. The EU isn’t perfect but better the devil you know.

Is anyone watching C4 news? Everyone says Bozo is lying and appealing to narrow nationalists in the most base manner. Shameful what this country is becoming. Leavers, if you can't see what's happening, you need to focus your attention. If you support it then you deserve what's coming.

Those who want Brexit 'over and done with', should remember that Brexit doesn't end on 1st Nov; it starts on that day. 1st Nov = 1st day of Brexit. There's at least a decade of trying to get post-Brexit trade deals and fixing a shattered economy after that.

The past three years have just been 'getting ready' for it.

Those who want or are prepared to leave on no deal, how many deaths are you willing to accept due to medicine shortages?

Both campaigns were shite and played to the lowest common denominator imo. But I blame David the coward Cameron for giving the country the vote and then fucking off like a petulant child when it didn't go his way.

I think a lot of half truths were peddled by leave campaigners, and about a third of the total eligible population to vote, either believed it, or were so very hung up on single issues like immigration that they voted leave.

I believe a lot have changed their minds now , but yes, a lot haven't, which is what I fail to understand, it's very clear, and pretty much always been, what will happen, but for some reason they don't want to believe it or back down,

As an mp said tonight, the best deal is the deal we currently have as being members of the eu, we simply can't better it.

But there is no point playing the blame game, the British public should never have been asked something so complex and so misunderstood in the first place,

Well look at that, 56% think ianbu to have no respect anymore for Leave voters.

I have no respect for leavers who made their mind up according to what they saw on the side of a bus. I have less respect for remainers who think leavers voted because of what they saw on the side of a bus. I have no respect for racists, however they voted. I have no respect for remainers who think all leavers are racists. I have no respect for those who think all leave voters are old and stupid and those who think all remain voters are young and stupid. I have no respect for those who believe everything said by one campaign and disbelieve everything said by the other. I have no respect for those who believe that one choice was all good and the other was all bad. I have no respect for those that cast their vote a certain way because XXX told them to do so.

I respect those who voted either way after carefully considering the issues and discounting the propaganda, obvious lies and dreamt up predictions presented as facts. I respect those who chose not to vote because they genuinely couldn’t decide, but not those who didn’t vote due to apathy. I respect those MPs, from both sides and several parties, who I think have behaved honourably - unfortunately I can count these using my fingers.

yadnbu
yabu for ever having respect for a leave voting type in the first place

@ReanimatedSGB thank you for the usual remainer sneer and ascribing me as a random, but you seem to be missing the point.

The point of the lift was the TOP DOWN political construct that is the EU. So a politician was openly saying 'we know best and we need to educate the people'.

Do you get this? Do you get the significance of this? Do you get that this structure might distort markets? Do you understand that 'markets' means millions of voluntary individual transactions people make daily? That top down political structure impinges on these individual freedoms in an economic way?

If you do not get any of these things, then please let me know and I will be happy to help you work it out.

No deal is simply Brexit.

I know a leave voter who is going on about stockpiling and talking about how bad Brexit is. She said she would still vote leave in another referendum though.

Some people really are too confused to vote.

But I mostly blame NF, DC and all the Brexiters leaders who know exactly what they were doing and caused the mess we're in now. I think they should be held accountable. I can't be bothered to get into arguments with people like my mum, who voted leave because of bendy bananas.

If the E U had responded to the multiple calls from member states to reform, there would not have been the need to call a referendum.

@mindproject
I have even less respect, contempt in fact, for the couple of Leave voters I know who have since got themselves Irish passports so they can keep their rights as EU citizens. Rights that they voted to take away from their adult children and grandchildren.

Oh and they both still support Leave and would vote the same again. As would my mum despite the fact Brexit very nearly cost me my job and did cost some of my colleagues their jobs.

I didn't have much respect for Leavers I knew anyway - they are unpleasant people with unpleasant views, ime.
Others I don't know may not be of that ilk, and just voted Leave in a totally misplaced effort to "give the politicians a kicking" or getting at Cameron, or protesting at how shite ther Tories have been re austerity.
But we are much better informed now.

So given we are much better informed now......I really know now that Leave voters must be very rich, very dim, very racist, simpletons re Little Englanders, have no sense of history, don't care about other people, like Nigel Farage, like Donald Trump, have no regard for our international standing, don't like Ireland, like to be told what to do by who they see as their 'betters', keep referring to a world war which led to millions of deaths as a good thing to experience.

Etc.

I agree though re the Remain campaign being bad.

Having said that, you'd think you wouldn't have to tell grown ups that stepping in a pile of shit will mean you will get shit all over your shoes.

But apparently you do.

No deal is simply Brexit.

This type of stuff makes you sound intellectually challenged.

All those in favour of no deal should read this which outlines what it actually would entail

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/ivan-rogers-the-realities-of-a-no-deal-

KD Those people with Irish passports are below contempt. They are citizens of the Irish Republic who they have essentially voted to cause a basket of mayhem and impoverishment.

They are citizens of the Irish Republic who they have essentially voted to cause a basket of mayhem and impoverishment.

Agree. Pricks the lot of them

I campaigned online for remain, but I was too scared to put a 'Vote Remain' poster in my window in case someone put a brick through it. I was also very careful what I said to some people because there was quite a bit of thuggery going around. I wish I'd been a bit braver now.

I have no respect for foot-stamping dolts like you, OP. I voted remain by the way.

If you must blame somebody, blame the government that enabled this shit-shower and then continued to run with it. It wasn't binding, what more of a loop-hole did they need?

If that still doesn't satisfy your blood-lust, blame the lazy twats who stayed away from the voting booths.

I don't blame DC. He put the referendum before the Commons and it was approved. By a large majority. Just as a large majority of mp's approved article 50 (Corbyn is on record as wanting to pass it immediately after the result).
It wasn't just the erg who voted down May's deal 3 times. The Labour mp's were whipped to turn it down, because they were playing party games with the issue.
I think there are genuine, intelligent mp's in the Commons. But they are in the minority.
So, the Commons voted to hold a Referendum and voted to implement it and were voted in, in the most recent ge, with that in their manifestos.
I respect all the people who voted but mp's have created this situation, and will pay for it at the next ge as many will not think it worthwhile to vote.