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To think this is the end of the Tories

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SirJamesTalbotAndHisSpeculum · 03/09/2019 23:06

…..as we know them.

None of them can agree with one another. It seems that there will be utter chaos when the Election is called as their Manifesto will be impossible to write.

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FagashJackie · 05/09/2019 00:18

Just one point to disagree with pp. You don't vote for a pm, or a party, you vote for your constituency MP.
Some are better than others. Some work really hard to represent their constituents, some are parasites sitting in Westminster.

Iggly · 05/09/2019 07:06

But is he going to persuade the electorate that he is a credible Leader of the Opposition? Unfortunately I don't think so

Theresa May lost her massive majority in her 2017 general election because more people voted Labour with JC as leader.

There’s a reason that the Tories and Tory press continually bash JC and present him unfairly as a raving communist- because he’s actually able to get votes.

In 2015, labour got 9.3 million votes and in 2017, they got 12.9 million.

So it’s false to claim the the electorate wouldn’t vote for labour with JC as leader.

That’s why the Tories have hauled in Dominic - he helped get the Leave campaign over the line with dodgy means by targeting swing voters on Facebook.

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SirJamesTalbotAndHisSpeculum · 05/09/2019 10:27

Just one point to disagree with pp. You don't vote for a pm, or a party, you vote for your constituency MP.
Some are better than others. Some work really hard to represent their constituents, some are parasites sitting in Westminster

Yes to the above. Some Tory MPs have a very loyal electorate who will be deeply upset that they have been thrown out of the party.

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SirJamesTalbotAndHisSpeculum · 05/09/2019 10:28

Bah. Bold fail above.

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Alsohuman · 05/09/2019 13:45

I bet No 10 is a fun place to be this week.

BertrandRussell · 05/09/2019 14:22

“I bet No 10 is a fun place to be this week.“

I worry for that dog. Except it’s probably gone back to Central Casting in disgrace.....

ReanimatedSGB · 05/09/2019 14:35

I'm a bit worried about Carrie Symonds, TBH. Knowing how many men attack their partners when their football team loses...

justasking111 · 05/09/2019 15:48

Sure Boris is not a football man he looks more of a rugby man to me.

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SirJamesTalbotAndHisSpeculum · 05/09/2019 17:10

Just wondering what the next instalment is going to be....

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KennDodd · 05/09/2019 17:25

I wonder if Brexit is also destroying Eton's reputation?

caringcarer · 05/09/2019 17:33

Now the Remainers who won't tow the Brexit line are expelled Boris will recruit Brexiteers into their former constituencies. Remember in recent Conservative Leader vote 75 % of Party members voted for Boris knowing his Brexit policy so it is likely Conservative voters are happy with him. Some of the rebels were going to stand down at next election in any case and had already announced this so they had nothing to lose by losing the whip. Now Boris may place himself in the safer Tory of Soames. Some of you may know once the boundry changes occur it will hit Labour harder then Torys.

Alsohuman · 05/09/2019 17:36

Trouble is the people in those constituencies may not vote for Johnson’s thugs @caringcarer. They definitely won’t in Justine Greening’s which voted over 70% remain.

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SirJamesTalbotAndHisSpeculum · 05/09/2019 19:49

So now even BJ's brother has resigned.

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Tonnerre · 06/09/2019 07:40

I thought Johnson wanted to cut down crime? Surely taking a load of cops off the streets to stand behind him isn't the way to achieve that?

SingingLily · 06/09/2019 08:27

Surely taking a load of cops off the streets to stand behind him isn't the way to achieve that?

They were police cadets, not fully fledged police officers with powers of arrest and all.

Wheresthebeach · 06/09/2019 08:46

All very Trump of him...

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SirJamesTalbotAndHisSpeculum · 06/09/2019 12:03

I wonder how many of the party faithful are regretting choosing BJ as their leader now.

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familycourtq · 06/09/2019 12:12

Sadly none of this is damaging the Tories or Eton anywhere like as much as it really should do.

I can understand the very wealthy voting Tory to continue to stamp on the poor.
I can't see why people on UC or min wage are voting for these buffoons - but they are.

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BertrandRussell · 06/09/2019 12:13

“I wonder how many of the party faithful are regretting choosing BJ as their leader now.”

He’s actually much crapper than I thought he would be. I am always surprised when I see products of expensive educations who can’t make a decent fist at a bit of public speaking.

Alsohuman · 06/09/2019 12:14

The reason the Crime Commissioner objects is because Johnson used the police for political gain. If a GE had been announced - which it kind of has - he wouldn’t have been allowed to do this.

SingingLily · 06/09/2019 12:22

the crime commisioner was still nonetheless not pleased with Boris move

Actually, it was the Chief Constable, not the Police and Crime Commissioner. Huge difference. The latter is a directly elected politician. The former is not - but as a public servant, he is meant to be publicly apolitical in keeping with his conditions of service.

By all means criticise Boris Johnson or any other politician but it helps if we, at least, keep to the facts.

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