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To wonder what is more terrifying to the public of Mumsnet, Corbyn or Brexit Fallout?

520 replies

BlueDaBabaDee · 01/09/2019 18:15

So either way we look we seem to have poor prospects.

Potential fears from either side...
Brexit = potential food shortages, medicine shortages, increase of house burglaries, riots, looting, at least half the jobs gone, pound becoming worthless, NHS collapse, economy going down etc.

Corbyn = land value tax, communist, everyone losing their property, house prices crashing, economy going down, etc

I'm not saying I believe either of these things exactly, although I think we will be facing an economy worse than the fall of 2008 after Brexit. I'm more curious as to what people here think.

So to the haters who will say "Another Brexit thread blah blah blah". No one made you click! Stop trying to silence the critics.

Anyways for voting purposes, what is more worrisome to you?

YANBU = the fallout from a BJ led No Deal Brexit
YABU = Jeremy Corbyn in charge

OP posts:
BertrandRussell · 02/09/2019 21:24

But it is- I have to say- a bit obsessive to have saved up disobliging comments made to another poster on another thread by posters unknown....

Autumnintheair · 02/09/2019 21:24

Dapple that's very small snap shot.
I even glanced at Westminster threads because I do enjoy reading them and poster said something like.. 'just been over to brexit arms to poke them and be Goady.'

Ah thanks West County Grin

The problem is West Country attitude is the attitude of many Labour mps to their core voters.

They have chopped away their core vote with contempt. I don't know what will happen in election.
All this pidegen holing, speaking for minorities etc. You couldn't make corbyn up.
I often wonder if corbyn isn't actually darstedly clever, knows he will never win election but wants brexit which is why he's never budged.. And is actually playing brexit long game.

Autumnintheair · 02/09/2019 21:26

Ooh dis ingenious Bertrand.

If your not aware of it, why comment and if you are then you will know it's become nigh on impossible for leavers to chat in peace on here. I could trot to brexit and pull hundreds of old comments from brexit threads.

Alsohuman · 02/09/2019 21:29

I never even read the Brexit threads so this is all unknown territory to me.

MaximusHeadroom · 02/09/2019 21:34

@Supernova69

Your complaint was that I claimed to speak for everyone who lost someone in the war. Not only did I not do that, it was User who did.

I never claimed the threat was against me. I didn't see it and I didn't report it.

Dapplegrey · 02/09/2019 21:36

Bertrand - No I didn’t report them. I let them stand as an example of how bloody unpleasant the Brexit threads have become. There are loads more similar.

Also no not on this thread.

Dapplegrey · 02/09/2019 21:40

But it is- I have to say- a bit obsessive to have saved up disobliging comments made to another poster on another thread by posters unknown....

If one is going to make an accusation surely it’s reasonable to provide evidence. However I can easily check which the posters were and let you know

BertrandRussell · 02/09/2019 21:51

Do you also keep a spreadsheet of the remonee/sore loser/get over it/spitting dummy out posts? Because there are plenty of them!

Incidentally, I am often one of the few posters holding particular views on a thread-try being a feminist on some parts of this site- and I never feel bullied. I just feel disagreed with with. Sometimes it goes into pms- and that can feel a bit grim. But on the thread? Nah.

Dapplegrey · 02/09/2019 22:08

Bertrand you haven't answered my question if you think those comments are acceptable - instead you’ve gone off on another tack accusing me of being obsessive.
Do you really want the names of the posters? Why does it make any difference who they are - they’re from the usual regular remainer posters.

BertrandRussell · 02/09/2019 22:17

Sorry- I didn’t mean to give the impression I wanted to know who had posted them. I don’t.

I think some of them are quite rude- I don’t agree with picking on people’s use of English, spelling or grammar (which Is why I apologised for a bit of unwarranted smart arsery earlier in this thread) But it’s hard to say how bad the others are without knowing what they were in response to. I think that often these things can only be viewed in context.

westcountrylovely · 02/09/2019 22:31

@Autumnintheair and that's why we have a representative democracy. I have heard next to no reasoning from leavers that is based in fact. MP's are doing their job and trying to stop us throwing ourselves over a cliff.
Give me some reasoned fact based arguments for leaving. And how to solve the NI border issue. Please.

BertrandRussell · 02/09/2019 22:44

I think that s the issue- remainers are desperate to be proved wrong. It’s not as if we’ve got somewhere to go if we’re right!

BertrandRussell · 02/09/2019 22:46

I just want someone to say to me - you’re wrong and this is why.

Supernova69 · 02/09/2019 23:33

Westcountrylovely

''Give me some reasoned fact based arguments for leaving. And how to solve the NI border issue. Please.''

You obviously don't know yourself as you regurgitated an article from the Guardian earlier, which being from that rag is heavily biased. Your cantankerous nature betrays you.

So what if someone wants to stay or leave the EU? That is their personal choice and not for you to seek validation and approval. Stop being so bloody annoyingly self-righteous.

Supernova69 · 02/09/2019 23:36

..and that is the problem. Remainer's think that they are superior. Of course IMO.

BertrandRussell · 02/09/2019 23:36

“So what if someone wants to stay or leave the EU? That is their personal choice and not for you to seek validation and approval”

Of course it is. But once they start talking about how much better things will be once we’ve left then it’s surely reasonable to ask in what way?

Supernova69 · 02/09/2019 23:39

''Of course it is. But once they start talking about how much better things will be once we’ve left then it’s surely reasonable to ask in what way?''

Well we shall soon see who is right or wrong...

Supernova69 · 02/09/2019 23:41

''I just want someone to say to me - you’re wrong and this is why.''

Do some research yourself and make a decision?

BertrandRussell · 02/09/2019 23:46

“Do some research yourself and make a decision?”

I have. Loads. All the research confirms to me that I’m right. I want someone to tell me i’m wrong and why.

Alsohuman · 02/09/2019 23:47

@Supernova69, why don’t you take your own advice? In the space of three posts you’ve accused another poster of being cantankerous, superior and self righteous. You’ve also refused to answer reasonable questions. You’re not helping your cause.

Puffty · 02/09/2019 23:47

Corbyn, McConnell & Abbott.
Shudder

Supernova69 · 02/09/2019 23:51

As someone said earlier, 'it's a lost cause on here' or words to that effect. Energies and thought better applied elsewhere. Far better things to do than argue about minutiae. I can accept differences in opinions/beliefs and even the results of democratic votes. A pity some can't and seek to disrupt and cause trouble Moving on now...

BertrandRussell · 02/09/2019 23:56

“Far better things to do than argue about minutiae”

I wish we were at the point of arguing about minutiae. I don’t think we’re anywhere near that yet.

Alsohuman · 03/09/2019 00:01

It certainly is a lost cause but perhaps not in the way you think.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 03/09/2019 07:16

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