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driving someone who says they may become unconscious

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Alwaysannoyingsomeonesmomehow · 15/08/2019 12:22

Situation is an urgent need to relocate someone and their vehicle that they can't drive, their several children and nine animals, (half are bigger ones) and possessions, from where they are now, to where they 'absolutely have to be on x date' on a very low budget.

They insist they cant fly, or split up animals and people.
Not all animals and children are expected to travel well and all will be packed into tight space. (one animal to be drugged with possible breathing side effects)
The journey they need to undertake is a minimum of 9 hours, easily up to 12.

Physical end of driving isn't an issue. (am experienced long term commercial driver and know my stuff and how to do it.)

Adult has various conditions, mainly undiagnosed, but no question that some very serious stuff seems to be happening to them.

Long history of them apparently losing consciousness and then ending up comatose from hours to days. They're saying it's normal and likely to happen at any point on this journey and all fine, the kids are used to them being unconscious (not asleep) for hours on end.

I and another driver were both originally fine to take (and care for) animals and stuff when people were all flying, but then got 'people now must travel in vehicle too' sprung on us.

We think the normalizing of someone being unconscious (and in front of the children) and being expected to say 'oh well' and carry on if that happens, is dangerous, irresponsible, and beyond acceptable.

But as a result, this (much loved) person will now turn to a non commercial driver who they don't know, who says they'll do it, and place everyone's lives in random hands.

Adult is saying being unconscious for all or part of the journey isn't life threatening, it's just how their life is, welcome to the choices they have to make all the time, and we're making too big a deal out of it. The children are all so used to it all etc. However these are the same children who can't be split from their parent,each other, or animals for the journey because of anxiety.

I get it, and bodily autonomy, but it feels like being made to accept the unacceptable because otherwise the situation may get worse.

We're now second guessing ourselves. I think we're NBU, but are we making to much out of it?

OP posts:
ReanimatedSGB · 17/08/2019 14:28

'Mystery' illnesses with vague yet dramatic symptoms are another feature of this type of abuser, though. Usually the doctors can't find out what the issue is because the person is faking some symptoms and lying about the cause of others...

Out of interest, OP, what happens when someone stands up to the abuser and says: You're being a stupid, selfish cunt here; we will help you but you need to shut up and do as you're told.

StCharlotte · 17/08/2019 14:38

I would put money on her "illness" bring entirely psychosomatic. In fact I would actually put money on her having an episode during this trip. Put your winnings towards hospital parking fees. She may be loved but she sounds like a nightmare.

StCharlotte · 17/08/2019 14:39

*being not bring

SleepWarrior · 17/08/2019 15:56

Did you say the ferry was near the start of the journey or did I imagine that? Could the adult take a taxi and go as a foot passenger (so you're all on the ferry together but they have no impact on your ability to continue the journey)? You pick them up after disembarking (assuming they are conscious!) and do the rest of the drive together with the understanding that an ambulance will be called if they do pass out, and that you will continue the journey with the children etc on you own.

Or just say no to the whole thing, that wouldn't be unreasonable at all.

ReanimatedSGB · 17/08/2019 15:57

Any of this sound familiar, OP?

(I'm aware that the article has a bit of a whiff of misogyny about it, and also aware that OP has still reserved the right not to state the gender of this horrible person, but still...)

Fretfulparent · 17/08/2019 16:27

Dissociative shutdown?

Like this example

www.psychotherapynetworker.org/blog/details/946/when-your-client-dissociates

Haffdonga · 17/08/2019 16:54

Ok, so you wont drive the whole lot of them together, they wont fly or travel separately. Stalemate. So there has to be some compromise to get them all where they need to be. What are the options they would most likely agree to?
Option 1. Sick person flies alone or with one or both teens as carers. Sick person would need a doctor's note to say they're fit to fly but they'd get there a lot more quickly with less chance of an episode. Younger kids and animals come with you.

  1. Animals go with you, as you'd agreed. All family members take alternative transport together (with Person B - non pro driver friend, or bus or taxi).
  2. You take sick person alone or with one teen carer so a trip to A & E on the way doesn't endanger animals. All the other children and animals go with Person B.

If they can't agree to any of the options they are choosing to stay where they are.

HMArsey · 03/09/2019 13:20

How did the journey go, OP?

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