AIBU to be annoyed with very loud toddler on rush hour train?

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On a packed commuter train this morning was an incredibly noisy toddler (he must have been around 3 – 3 and a half or so). As I got on the train he was raging, mid-tantrum, wailing that he wanted a particular seat on the train, and that he wanted the train to be going the other way to the direction it was actually travelling in. This was actually quite funny, if annoying, and went on for about 10 minutes. His mother was very nice and calm, didn’t really do or say much but eventually he stopped with his tantrum. However, for the rest of the journey, he was talking in what I can only think was the very top of his voice, narrating the things he saw, just general toddler chat I suppose (it was quite sweet really). His mother was sort of engaging with him in a nice way. But my genuine question is whether parents should try and help toddlers to moderate their speaking volume sometimes, or is this just a ridiculous / unreasonable thought / an absolute fantasy? For context, it was a rush hour train, most people looked like they might have been trying to read newspapers / check work emails etc. Everyone has an equal right to be on any train they like but I just wonder whether one should expect a bit more peace and quiet in rush hour? Or am I mad to think that you can ever expect to moderate or control how a toddler speaks or indeed the volume of it? Currently expecting my first child and I have no idea how I would personally approach this, but I am conscious that I found the toddler this morning incredibly irritating and distracting. AIBU?

I think "Pepper Spray" should be allowed in the UK. Not on the toddlers-but on their parents. The silence of children would be amazing.

I’m always more annoyed by people having SUPER IMPORTANT phone class VERY LOUDLY than a sweet toddler being enthusiastic albeit loud and I dislike people who complain about children on public transport unless they are actually being little shits.

I am a little bit sensitive to this scenario however. I remember my baby brother having an appointment at a specialist hospital (born with heart problems). It was a 9am appt so we were on the rush hour tube. My brother was similarly being sweet but at toddler volume. My Dad shushed a few times but as the tube got louder so did my brother. Eventually a man in a suit asked my Dad to “shut your child up and perhaps don’t bring him on the tube when people are travelling to work.”

My Dad was stunned into silence but my Mum, love her, smiled very sweetly at the man and said “terribly sorry. Perhaps you can give me your number and I’ll ask my son’s cardiologist to call you about his appointment times to make sure they’re to your liking.”

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Good luck with your toddler when the time comes 👍🏼

Oh you would have hated my DS17 when he was a toddler OP! I swear he saved up every minor nuance of the day for when we got the rush hour bus home and unleashed it 100-fold! And my DS13 has Aspergers, and has no quiet voice at all! Good luck in 3 years OP, and congratulations on your pregnancy!