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To think Jeremy Corbyn has finally lost the plot, if he thinks Westminster should vote for him to be Prime Minister?

236 replies

hiphopchick · 15/08/2019 09:32

Temporarily for now. (So he says!) So he can call a general election and get the Tories out, and get Labour in (so he can have the job permanently!) And maybe even derail Brexit. Even though he has been very anti-EU all his political life (40-odd years!) he seems to have fallen in love with the EU this past year or two! Wink

talkradio.co.uk/news/jeremy-corbyn-make-me-temporary-pm-stop-no-deal-brexit-19081531927

Personally, I actually laughed out loud when I saw the news this morning, and saw that he wants Westminster to vote him in as Prime Minister. The man is so deluded, and off the planet, that I'm not sure he should be leaving the house, or holding a hot kettle, or in charge of sharp objects, let alone running the fecking country! Confused

YABU if you disagree with me.

YANBU if you AGREE with me.

You probably already know that.

I'll get me coat....... Grin

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Laiste · 15/08/2019 13:52

Corbyn is the EXACT reason that the bloody Tories are in power (STILL!) And they will remain in power until Corbyn has fucked off!

I just want to repeat this again.
I think it needs it.

ShatteredBrianne · 15/08/2019 13:57

I think the media smears are the real reason. No one will vote for labour under Corbyn, cos the media have smeared him since he was elected leader.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 15/08/2019 14:18

Media smears Hmm

He history is well documented you don’t need to do much research as he has been an MP for over 30 years

Replacing Boris I am all for replacing him with someone with Corbyn’s history, political views. backed and controlled by momentum, and being the poorest opposition party leader I can ever remember no thanks

He knows it won’t happen but he can now play the card of I do believe we should remain so transparent

Poolrefusers · 15/08/2019 15:16

as we know most Labour voters are remain
Where is your evidence for that because it simply isn't true.

It is widely documented from many sources that the majority of Labour voters are pro-remain, and that Labour is going to get heavily defeated if they don't come out strongly for remain in a GE because their prevaricating means that most Labour leavers will have already given up on them and gone to the BP. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48039984

I can’t stand JC myself but the idea that he has no right to do this or that it’s ridiculous/inappropriate is just wrong. As leader of the opposition it’s exactly the sort of thing he should be doing at such a time, but the problem is he’s so shit and divisive that people won’t get behind him. I agree that Ken Clarke (or Harriet Harman) would be better choices, but JC is better than no one. I like Jo Swinson, but if she refuses to get behind this and nothing else is put in place and we then crash out she is going to look partly culpable.

He has been the most successful Labour leader in a long time if you look at Labour member numbers, and he's been elected by them twice despite constant media smears, so to say it's his fault that the Tories are in or that he doesn't represent Labour voters seems a bit odd to me.

I’m sorry but this is a ridiculous statement that shows a lack of understanding of politics. He is not the most successful Labour leader because he has failed to achieve the most important task of an opposition leader: win an election. Whether you like him or not, Tony Blair is the most successful Labour leader of recent times because he won three elections and was able to enact policies that made a difference to people’s lives. You don’t judge a party’s success by how many people belong to it but by how many people vote for it, in the right places to win more seats than any other party. That’s all that counts because that is all that will make a real difference to the millions of people in this country who need Labour to be in power. Him filling up his fan club makes not one jot of difference to the vulnerable people he claims to want to serve. In your final sentence you have confused Labour voters with Labour members. Yes, he is popular with Labour members, but they already support Labour because they are, you know, Labour members. To be considered successful he has to win over people who are not already in his fan club, and he has singularly failed to do that so far.

Woodward12 · 15/08/2019 15:56

I would be thrilled if he was PM, although not a popular opinion on Mumsnet.

notupsettingpeople · 15/08/2019 16:18

The sooner Labour get their act together and provide a viable alternative, the sooner politics can move forward. Corbyn was a protest choice amongst the old Labour membership which made their point, but keeps them in opposition. Choose a leader who is proper PM material and things will change across the board. If Corbyn had any morals, he would step down to let the next leader in. I really hope they can see that a centre left could be PM but a left left never could.

Jason118 · 15/08/2019 16:18

I'd agree to a chihuahua as PM to stop a no deal brexit.

ShatteredBrianne · 15/08/2019 16:25

The problem is pandora's box has been opened on Brexit and it needs to be dealt with once and for all.

I would rather remain but the referendum has happened. We cant put it back in the box. JC wants to act as caretaker which is precisely what he should be doing as opposition or trying to do until this shit is sorted out. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesnt.

Dogsaresomucheasier · 15/08/2019 16:33

I’ve been very frustrated with his lack of opposition to Brexit, but I like and respect his socialist agenda. Somebody needs to sort out this mess and he’ll do!

CasperGutman · 15/08/2019 17:49

I find Corbyn intensely frustrating. He is dogmatic, and seems to have no political instincts. I am convinced much of the anti-Semitism business has been a smear campaign cooked up by the right-wing press (how much less publicity has the documented islamophobia* of the Conservative membership received?), but he has handled it atrociously.

That said, even if Corbyn is a "joke who would destroy Britain if he got in" I don't see how that makes him worse than Johnson, who is a particularly unfunny and dangerous joke and is already setting about destroying Britain with gusto!

*www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48912065

Deathgrip · 15/08/2019 17:53

These threads are so predictable. A bunch of tories without an independent thought between them, bragging about Corbyn being a danger while this government’s actions are destroying lives.

Bloody tedious.

DrierThanANunsNasty · 15/08/2019 17:55

Another Jeremy Corbyn bashing thread. These are so boring now Hmm

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/08/2019 17:55

Nope - Corbyn is a liability. He is not what Labour is about. I don’t recognise the party any more. You can’t just assume people’s politics.

Yaflamingalah · 15/08/2019 17:58

These threads are so predictable. A bunch of tories without an independent thought between them, bragging about Corbyn being a danger while this government’s actions are destroying lives.

Are you on the right thread? No one has said that at all! In fact most people posting are Labour supporters lost in the JC wilderness.

ShatteredBrianne · 15/08/2019 18:00

Just people moaning cos he's not Blairite enough.

Deathgrip · 15/08/2019 18:00

Anyone seriously considering helping that man into power really needs to do a little research.

Terrifying

And agreement. On page 1.

BarberaofSeville · 15/08/2019 18:02

Taking part in successful peace talks in Northern Ireland is far from sympathising with a terrorist

Eh? He had no role in the peace talks.

ShatteredBrianne · 15/08/2019 18:21

Well he did endorse the GFA and voted for it. But obviously this is mumsnet so everyone is quick to condemn him.

Citing antisemitism, terrorism etc as reasons to not elect the labour party doewnt really hold any water when the Tories have been racist, islamophobic, war mongering and driving people into poverty for the last decade. You all think you're taking the moral high ground by bashing Corbyn but your alternatives are nowhere near as squeaky clean. I wonder what you have to gain from this. And no I'm not lost in the 'JC wilderness' but Boris is clearly a twat, a racist, etonian, brutish twat but apparently that's ok.

Right then.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/08/2019 18:25

A lot of people just don’t like him or where he is taking Labour.

Bunnyfuller · 15/08/2019 18:26

As much as I despair around Brexit/no deal etc. Mr Corbyn doesn’t give 2 fucks about the country and throughout this carnage all he’s said is ‘make me PM’. I’m violently anti conservative, but I’m equally anti-Corbyn. Gave him the benefit of the doubt, forgave him for not playing to the masses and acting from the heart (anti royalist etc) but his barefaced power-hungry yet insipid and gutless approach to Brexit has turned me away from Labour.

noodlenosefraggle · 15/08/2019 18:44

I think as he's just proposing a caretaker government to stop no deal, its a viable option. However, I suspect 1.he won't be able to command a majority and 2. A general election will likely result in a Tory/Brexit Party coalition. Its irritating to hear Corbyn supporters still moaning about the biased media. He didn't even go on Radio 4 this morning. Rebecca Long Bailey was sent to do an extremely lengthy, presumably live interview. If his own party don't trust him to speak, it doesn't really bode well. Social media is the new platform. Young people don't read newspapers. They won't be able to use that excuse at the next election. It will be up to them to mobilise young people to vote for them instead of blaming everyone else. They might need to come up with a decent Brexit policy to do that though, which they seem incapable of doing.

NiceRadFem · 15/08/2019 18:56

Hello,

I used to hold office in my local CLP (Constituency Labour Party), I spoke at the 2018 Labour Conference and was part of the group who composed the Labour Party's policy on Brexit.

I was in the Labour party for 7 years and I have never voted anything but Labour.

I gave a vast chunk of my life to the Labour party and left, with great pain, after the Party's failure to support remain. The Party wanted to represent those members who voted leave and wished to respect the results of the referendum.

I resigned from my position and left the Party.

This to give you the back story and explain my lack of support for Jeremy Corbyn which is, however, very different from some of the previous posters' opinion - having worked with JC I can vouch for his integrity, commitment and lack of racism. I cannot, however, vouch for his commitment to a European cause - this is a major point for me: I do not believe that Jeremy Corbyn can offer the leadership I want for the Party in the thralls of Brexit. As much as I agree with many of his policies, I cannot support his policy on Brexit.

Having said that, I believe that at the moment we ought to stop no deal and if this works to stop BJ and his acolytes so be it.

NiceRadFem · 15/08/2019 18:58

Hi noodlenosefraggle - actually Lab is quite good at social media, having so many young supporters, and did so well in 2017 thanks to the social media impact, mostly led by Momentum.

ToTryThisJustOnce · 15/08/2019 19:01

Get Boris Out

EllebellyBeeblebrox · 15/08/2019 19:03

People have been so keen for him to speak up, do something, make a stand. He now has, and is trying to work cross party which is a start. Yeah he's not perfect but at least it's something, unfortunately for some he will never do anything right. The current direction we're heading in is fucking terrifying, I think we should get behind him as another option.