To think Jeremy Corbyn has finally lost the plot, if he thinks Westminster should vote for him to be Prime Minister?

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Temporarily for now. (So he says!) So he can call a general election and get the Tories out, and get Labour in (so he can have the job permanently!) And maybe even derail Brexit. Even though he has been very anti-EU all his political life (40-odd years!) he seems to have fallen in love with the EU this past year or two!

talkradio.co.uk/news/jeremy-corbyn-make-me-temporary-pm-stop-no-deal-brexit-19081531927

Personally, I actually laughed out loud when I saw the news this morning, and saw that he wants Westminster to vote him in as Prime Minister. The man is so deluded, and off the planet, that I'm not sure he should be leaving the house, or holding a hot kettle, or in charge of sharp objects, let alone running the fecking country!

YABU if you disagree with me.

YANBU if you AGREE with me.

You probably already know that.

I'll get me coat.......

Corbyn vs No Deal. As I have said elsewhere like choosing between being shot in the knees or shot in the head.
I'll take a shot in the knees for now. God help me. I hate him. I'm old and I've seen his like from sixth form common rooms to University bars to smug little corners of pubs. Useless fucking poseur. And still better than No Deal Brexit.

If Labour hadn't chosen aunt Sally's boyfriend they'd be 20 points ahead in the polls.

He is the oldest student political activist in town. Reminds me of the socialist worker party types who would turn up at every point and trap show when we were students.

The thing is with Corbyn you probably end up with a worse deal than no deal, he is that crap.

jewel1968 a very vocal, powerful and large minority of Party members (some connected with Len McClusky and Unite) support Leave. I can witness that the "fudge" of Labour's policy on Brexit is caused by inner divisions and conflicts more than from election strategy. It took hours to get that motion written and there was a lot of shouting in the room, a room which we could not leave until there was consensus. [It is one of the most vivid memories of my life - midnight in Liverpool, coming out of conference at the same time people were going out of pubs after a night out]. Because of the democratic structure of the Lab party, almost everything gets decided through motions, discussions, conference policies, etc., and if there is conflict within the party = huge fudge to get to some form of consensus!!

Everyone likes to harp on about how awful he is, but we are plummeting towards what is increasingly likely to be an absolute disaster. Really, how much worse could it be?

Well it would be a lot worse for the puppeteers with their hands up the arses of Johnson et al, and sadly many people don’t stop to think that what’s best for the wealthy owners of newspapers might not be what’s best for them...

Really, how much worse could it be?

A life long eu sceptic in charge offering free shit and "making the rich pay" (cough 80k a year made MN suddenly become self aware in the champagne socialism) with potentially more or at least the same hit to GDP than what Brexit is, is kind of a problem.

Some people are just blinded by tribalism and just want power.

Brexiteers and ardent corbyn fans both want unicorns and ignore the warnings from the same experts who say either side is a disaster.

There's only one UK politician at the moment who concerns me more than Corbyn and that's John McDonnell. I genuinely don't know who I'd vote for when the GE is called (still haven't forgiven the lib Dems for screwing my generation and all subsequent on tuition fees). Boris was a cartoon politician when he was a fairly impotent mayor of London and tolerable for the short term when the only other option was red Ken who was just taking things too far for people who had to actually live in the city. He's definitely not a prime minister. Or really comes to something when you start thinking wistfully about Blair, found myself ironically humming 'things can only get better' earlier.
I still wonder what would've happened if the other Milliband was chosen, but sadly this is not a choose your own adventure.

If some bastard is intent in getting us out on a No Deal come what may, then l’d rather a Corbyn No Deal than a fucking Bojo No Deal.

I just want to run away from all of it

Increasing corporation tax, closing loopholes on tax evasion and increasing tax rates for the highest earners- some of the ways that Labour policies would be funded. I haven't heard yet how Boris's extra police are to be funded, perhaps the fabled "magic money tree" that people routinely accuse Labour of having.

It's a great idea of his. Hope it works out!

Justanotherlurker I want to reassure that Labour's 'tax the rich' policy definitely is not aimed at individuals that earn £80,000 or even £180,000 but to multi nationals such as Google and Amazon and dodgy oligarchs and arms trafficking pluri-millionaires . I am not keen on the 'tax the rich' expression because is unnecessarily divisive and cannot tell you how many times I had to explain on the doorstep of suburban semis that, no, tax the rich is not against you and, no, a £35,000 per year family won't be worse off under Labour.

The problem with that is that you need a worldwide approach. The likes of Google and oligarchs is that they have the means to avoid tax by going somewhere else. Once they have moved to tax havens, the only way to get the cash is to tax individuals.

I'm not a Corbyn fan but I'd support anything that would get us out of this extremely damaging Brexit mess. I like the idea of an opposition coalition to stop Boris.

You do realize Boris Johnson is currently prime minister. Boris Johnson! Why would anybody be deluded for thinking they could do it?

Oh it's a though job for sure and a poison chalice. But crashing out no-deal will be a disaster and it need to be rethought.

Tough*

If some bastard is intent in getting us out on a No Deal come what may, then l’d rather a Corbyn No Deal than a fucking Bojo No Deal

Eh? 🤔

He supports Brexit and he is doing everything he can to enable it while desperately trying to dump 100% of the blame on the Tories

In the event of a peoples vote before a general election Labour will campaign for Remain, in the event of a general election Labour will re-negotiate a customs union/single market brexit then the Labour deal/Remain will be given back to the people to vote on. In the event of Corbyn becoming a caretaker PM Starmer will negotiate with the EU to secure an extension for enough time to allow for a GE campaign. He consistently asked the Tories to take No Deal off the table, is he a Lexiter? Evidence would seem to suggest so although his opinion was 'it's better to Remain and Reform' but he seems to stick with what he says for the most part

i dont know where he found this weird idea of becoming temporary PM.

i dont know where he found this weird idea of becoming temporary PM.

After a successful vote of no confidence in the sitting PM it is then up to the Leader of the Opposition to try and command the majority of the house

His alter ego?

@NiceRadFem - it is clear you know more about current Labour Party policy than I do - perhaps I should have said that it is my perception that JC has moved the Labour Party too far left for me.

I suspect that I am not the only person who believes this about the Labour Party under JC, and maybe that is the problem - people’s perception of Labour - and if this true, Labour needs to address this misperception - it needs to make people like me feel we would be welcome in Labour - something I definitely do not feel at the moment.

Not really a weird idea when you consider how messed up politics is right now