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To confront SIL's about exclusion of DD?

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CorkNight · 11/08/2019 20:00

DD is 14. She has 2 aunties on her dad’s side and 3 uncle’s. Today she came up to me and asked if me or DH had fallen out with either of the SIL’s. I said no and asked why and she showed me a Facebook post of one SIL’s. Both SIL’s, SIL1’s DD16, SIL2’s step DD’s 12 and 14 and one of my BIL’s DD15 were all on the Eurostar. They are going to Paris and come back Wednesday. SIL described it as a “girly holiday”. There are a couple of other nieces via BIL’s but they either are at uni or have young DC so they are irrelevant. DD was confused as to why she wasn’t invited. If it was just SIL1 and SIL2 with their DD’s I could put it down to a sister trip but they have invited BIL’s daughter and SIL1 posted about how she can’t wait to spend time with her nieces.

DD has been invited to trips with her aunties in the past and I’ve always paid for everything and DD has always had a nice time. But things have been strange with DH’s family for a while now. We moved in June and I made a groupchat of all the siblings (DH doesn’t bother with Facebook) and said “Who would be up for a house warming on X weekend?”. Only of the SIL’s replied and said “If we have nothing else on we’ll come x.” Needless to say housewarming never happened. On weekend me and DD were shopping in the city and DH rang to say a BIL had popped round. I said “Oh we’ll come home then and say hi.” and then DH said “Oh well he’s going in a minute.”. Soon after that some of DH’s siblings went to a festival and we weren’t invited.

DD’s exclusion from the Paris trip though has really twisted the knife in. She loves her aunties and cousins. She’s had an awful time with bullying and exlusion from friends at school (her aunties know this) and so her mental health is already in tatters and so to be excluded by her family as well has destroyed her. I confided in my sister about it damn near tears and my sister has been lovely and has arranged to treat DD on Friday. The thing is, DH doesn’t seem arsed about any of it. He just says “Well we couldn’t afford to pay for DD’s Paris anyway.” Which is completely besides the point and as she’s had such a shit time lately I’d have scraped together the money for her to go and have a nice time with her cousin’s. DH denies it but I think we have done something to upset his family (honestly can’t think what) and they have spoken to him about it but he doesn’t want to tell me. He hates conflict and is a bit spineless so rather than go “Okay I’ll speak to my wife about it and see if we can sort this.” he’d just avoid it and keep us seperate.

I want to get to the bottom of this for DD’s sake more than anything, she keeps saying “Well I must just be bad company so why should they invite me?”. This has really damaged her. Would I be unreasonable to contact a SIL? “DD has seen you have gone away without her and is very upset, she’s already having a hard time as you all know and is devastated that she’s been excluded by her aunts who she adores. I suspect me or DH have done something which has upset you all and you have spoken to DH about it but you know what he’s like and he won’t tell me. Could you please tell me what the issue is so we can sort it and I can tell your heartbroken niece that it’s not her?”.

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JonSlow · 11/08/2019 20:03

I would. You’ve got nothing to lose, if the relationship is already fractious

steff13 · 11/08/2019 20:05

It sounds like something else is going on for sure. I would ask.

MrsGrannyWeatherwax · 11/08/2019 20:06

I suspect your DH definitely knows more than he’s saying, I’d contact them.

IAskTooManyQuestions · 11/08/2019 20:06

'Confront' is aggressive - try asking, it's much politer and more likely to yield a response.

Or you could let DH deal with his family

ColdToesHere · 11/08/2019 20:06

I’d send that message.
Sounds like they’ve fallen out with our DH and for some reason he isn’t telling you.
Maybe he’s done something he knows you won’t approve of and they’ve had a go at him for it?

GertrudeCB · 11/08/2019 20:07

I would .

steff13 · 11/08/2019 20:07

I found out my husband's stepmother has a dinner for all the women in the family, sisters, daughters, wives, even girlfriends, but never included me. It's because she hates me though. I never did anything; she hated me from the time we got married. It still hurt when I found out though.

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 11/08/2019 20:08

I really wouldn't send that, but if your DH really won't talk to his sisters then I would when they get back. Your daughter can be reassured that it is nothing at all to do with her company, and you don't always get invited to everything, but it does sound like something is going on.

AdelaideK · 11/08/2019 20:08

Yes I'd contact them.

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 11/08/2019 20:08

I would talk to them I mean. That first sentence made no sense sorry!

AnneLovesGilbert · 11/08/2019 20:09

Oh dear. If you tell him you’re planning to contact SIL but give him a chance to explain first do you think he would?

Queenioqueenio · 11/08/2019 20:10

Yes I would ask, in a polite way, explaining about her mental health being in tatters already (as you have above).
Could DH have fell out with them and not told you?

PlanBea · 11/08/2019 20:10

Tell DH you're going to send it before you do, it might force his hand to tell you what's gone on? It sounds so sad for your DD, hopefully her treat with her other auntie will cheer her up

Fatted · 11/08/2019 20:11

I'd go back to DH first. It might be something he has done to them or they have done to him. It's his family. Has he been complaining about your financial situation to his family? They may not want to put you out financially by inviting you.

If you don't get anywhere with him, then try asking SIL as non accusingly as possible if everything is OK. I don't think something like 'looks like you had fun, we will need to come along next time' would hurt on the pictures.

Soubriquet · 11/08/2019 20:12

I would too

Though it sounds like the hate you for moving away?

Ikeameatballs · 11/08/2019 20:12

Definitely talk to them to find out what's going on.

Firsttimemama2017 · 11/08/2019 20:15

I would message just the first part of your message and end at have we done something to upset you. If they have already spoken to DH they'll probably say!

Cosyjimjamsforautumn · 11/08/2019 20:16

Sounds odd but i wonder f they all live close together or nearby to each other could they have got upset with you because your part of the family moved away? Worth a phone call to ask as if theyve pulled away anyway theres nothing to lose by asking

BelleSausage · 11/08/2019 20:16

Just send a short message like this: it looks like you all had a lovely time away. DD saw all the pictures and was a bit envious. Maybe we could all plan a trip together for next year.

This should be a good opening gambit. See what they reply and go from there. Stay away from accusative language ‘you did this’ etc. Good luck.

CorkNight · 11/08/2019 20:16

@Soubriquet Oh we didn't move away. Just moved to a new house in the same area.

@AnneLovesGilbert TBH I've already tried that before TBH. I'll probably write something up to send and show it him and say if he doesn't explain then it's being sent whether he likes it or not. I think either he's done something to upset his family which he knows will piss me off or I've done something (honestly can't think what) which has annoyed them and he doesn't want to upset me by telling me.

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AGenericUsername · 11/08/2019 20:17

Give your DH the option. Either he tells you what the problem is or you'll go straight to the horse's mouth and hear it from them. Either way you need to know what the problem is. This poor girl is being excluded by her own family. She must feel awful. It's bad enough being bullied in school but for your own family to do it is appalling. I hope you managed to sort it for your DD's sake. It's a tough age and they're being cruel to her.

Wishihad · 11/08/2019 20:19

Do not send it while they are away.

It will cause drama and you will get blamed for putting a downer on their trip.

Thos happened to me. Me, my mum and my aunts went away for a long weekend. We had invited sil (bros wife) when we booked, more our of politeness than anything else. She has made it clear she doesnt like my aunts, or me or my mum. But we felt we should invite her, because not doing would cause issues. She said no.

We went she caused issues while we were away. Dbro contacted my, then, husband and my dad. Husband told me, one aunty contact dbro and told him to grow up and that we had invited her. He claimed not to have known that. Sp basically, she turned us down then moaned that we didnt invite her.

Put a cloud over the trip. It may be that they asked your husband and he said no due to finances.

If you ruin their trip and it turns out to be DHS fault, that's not really fair on them.

Does sound like there is a problem in the family though and that your dh knows what it is.

Didntwanttochangemyname · 11/08/2019 20:19

I think you should send the message in your OP, get this out in the open and dealt with for the sake of your daughter.

ChicCroissant · 11/08/2019 20:20

Are you as sure as you can be that they didn't approach your DH about the trip and he said you couldn't afford it?

I wouldn't be confrontational about it, I like the approach mentioned by a pp that said it looked fun and we should do something all together next time.

MrsMozartMkII · 11/08/2019 20:21

Ouch. Poor DD.

I'd definitely contact them, find out what the heck is going on. It'd better be something real and they'd better have a bloody good reason for effectively taking it out on a child.