How does Jeremy Corbin justify knowing that people will never vote for his party as long as he’s heading it… but he will never leave?

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I’m not debating whether people are right to dislike him or not BUT fairly or not he is pretty universally loathed which makes him a bit like being a 3 legged horse at the Derby.

If you're running a party, company, or country people have got to like you or at least deeply respect your talents and if neither is there surely the decent thing is to step aside.

For the life of me I can’t get my head around how anyone could keep doing this to a country they say they love. AIBU?

*Corbyn

I like him

I like him. I think disliking him is very popular.

He may have great policies of his own but over the last three years has consistently failed to give Opposition policies any, well, opposition whatsoever! I honestly don't believe we'd be in the mess we are in now if he'd stood up more firmly against Brexit sooner (as the Labour membership supposedly would like him to).
I've always voted Labour in this marginal seat - but at the moment it's a vote against the Tories and not a vote for Corbyn's Labour at the moment.
Brexit, along with the climate crisis are 100% my priorities at the moment and there are parties with a much stronger record on both of those.

Quite a lot of people voted for him in the last election. Didn’t Labour wipe out the Tory majority?

He exceeded very low expectations and in case you hadn’t noticed we’ve still had the Conservatives as our government following that election

Was a Party member who has always voted labour. Quit the party several years ago. I despise Corbyn. He lives in a momentum bubble, surrounded by a tight cabal. Appalling leadership, poor management and totally oblivious to it all.

@themmatricc Why does the CPB give him CRITICAL support? Because the CPB has always championed a left lead socialist government as we understand that change needs to be progressive. We’ve applied for affliction long before Corbyn. Lots of people on the left appreciate Marx and his work, not just us harden left wing ‘extremists’ John McDonnell isn’t someone we’d class as a Marxist (whether he calls himself one or not), he’s likely fairly sympathetic to the cause though. well marx him self said communism was a 2 stage process first socialism or dictatorship of the proletariat" then utopia or full communism corbyn fits in the first stage thats why he dosnt answer the question on marx because he would agree with a lot of what said in a communist manifesto.
and y the way if McDonnell calls him self a marxist hes a marxist saying anything else is a no true Scotsman fallacy

He fails to understand that to win an election he doesn’t need the good people of Bootle (was the safest labour seat in the country) to support him - they would vote mr blobby if he was labour.

He needs the floating voters of the Home Counties and the shires. And those voters will run a mile from his extreme left wing politics.

He’s a fool who thinks he’s right. You can’t reason with people who gave no brain. So pragmatic acceptance that he would serve his party best by graceful withdrawal is something he could never manage.

Corbyn is the best thing that's happened to the Labour Party

He’s definitely the best thing that’s happened to the Conservative party.

Yes, there is no way the tories would have hung on without such utterly incompetent opposition.
What was it they cane in Brecon? Fifth? And the Tory candidate had been convicted and unseated by petition - and they still couldn’t beat him. Labours a joke now.

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Why does the CPB give him CRITICAL support? Because the CPB has always championed a left lead socialist government as we understand that change needs to be progressive. We’ve applied for affliction long before Corbyn.

“We”?! So you’re literally a communist? And sticking up for your mate Jeremy? No wonder the country thinks he’s off in far left loony land.

He exceeded very low expectations and in case you hadn’t noticed we’ve still had the Conservatives as our government following that election

Yes, the thinking that ‘well, Labour didn’t lose by as much as was expected so that counts as a victory, right?’ is quite odd.

Jeremy Corbyn is loved in Liverpool let me tell you. The man is not a fucking terrorist sympathiser unlike mays husband who u all want to do a little research on. Your opinions are a prime example of how the media has brainwashed people in this country to be against a man who is fighting for all of you. He is loved by all of my friends and family because he stands up for the working class. The big media corporations paint him in a bad light because his movement is going to affect them very badly. If u look at how he has voted in the past you will see he has voted on the side of the people. Socialism is progressive. Its sad that many of you hate a man because you buy in to bullshit news. Oh and@ holidayquestion1 what's bad about a fucking blairite government if it gets Labour in to power? I seriously think this must be a pisstake. Not remember the massive fucking war that happened. When your children come to you and ask you why this country has such a massive divide between the rich and the poor, there are no opportunities for working class young people and they have to pay for all their health care make sure you tell them its because corbyn wore a bad suit.
He didn't sing loudly enough at the national anthem
He is anti semetic
He is a terrorist sympathiser becayse he was in peace talks
His beard is too messy

Labour’s education policies are shit.

I hate Corbyn, he’s a public relations disaster, has handled the anti-semitism thing appallingly and seems very brittle. I could overlook that if Labour at least looked like they knew what they were doing in my area of work. But they look like they’ve thrown together a few poorly thought out proposals and bunch of ‘crowd pleasers’ that will be a complete mess. I wonder if it’s the same for their other policies.

Corbyn was responsible for one of the biggest revivals the Labour Party ever experienced. A BBC/Guardian (etc) nemesis. you misspelled Blair who won 3 elections corbyn has won none
Ed Milliband was responsible for the worst defeat labour has ever experienced. A Guardian/BBC (etc) favourite.
actually the worst labour defeat was 1983 where foot got 27 percent of the vote lost 9 percent of the vote from the previous election milliband gained on brown by the way didnt corbyn say he would win before the election why didnt he keep his promise

@zeezee3 I completely agree. His “principles” would damage the country beyond repair. All of his followers are politically ignorant idealists.

I honestly think he has a serious likability issue. What’s the point of denying it?

I'm not saying its all his fault, in fact I agree with others that media bias is shocking, but other’s have got beyond it and he doesn't seem able.

4 years is long enough for him to be a serious contender and if he doesn’t have it shouldn’t he move along now for the good of the country especially now?

….And yes … I am totally for the NHS despite its ills its one of the best systems in the world still, so yes I care.

Bingo! The hackneyed ‘if you don’t like Corbyn you’ve been brainwashed’ line.

It’s an extremely reductive argument, and runs parallel to the ‘no debate’ mechanisms proffered by those without a solid defence of their position.

He is Marmite. To win a GE he has to be appealing to more than he does.
Personally (and as previous Labour voter) I consider him as the most dangerous politician in modern times. I seriously fear for the people if he should ever become PM. I dont think he will tolerate any opposition to his rule.

I think he is a dangerous figurehead of an abominable mob.

No. If you do like Corbyn you’ve been brainwashed. No sane person examining him dispassionately could avoid the conclusion that he is a deeply unpleasant, stupid man who would be handily the worst PM we have ever had.

If there ever was a time that the opposition could be wiping the floor with the Tories, it is now. But all I’m seeing are tumbleweeds.

I know of plenty of lefties who hate him.

Yes, people should vote for policies, but the reality is that many (most) do not.

I’d be interested to see what would happen if Boris Johnson lost a no confidence vote of MPs and refused to step down.

Jeremy Corbyn is loved in Liverpool let me tell you. The man is not a fucking terrorist well he did lay a wreath from the munich massacre terrorist he Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
these are facts ita also a fact that liverpool has 3 mps and 1 of them is not a labour mp

Your opinions are a prime example of how the media has brainwashed people in this country to be against a man who is fighting for all of you not working hard for me id like to keep more of the money i earn not pay more tax
The big media corporations paint him in a bad light because his movement is going to affect them very badly. the media treat him with kid gloves especially the bbc Socialism is progressive. you ealise progresse means moving forward nt trying something (socialism) that been tried and failed many times and was created 150 years ago
He is a terrorist sympathiser becayse he was in peace talks he was in no peace talks because only people in power can give peace talks and does not explain why he called hamas his 'friends'
when your children come to you and ask you why this country has such a massive divide between the rich and the poor, there are no opportunities for working class young people and they have to pay for all their health car well people are going to have to pay for healthcare no matter what unless you suggest not paying doctors and nurses?

I am from Liverpool.
He is not loved in Liverpool.