People who have never experienced being in family court

[SavanahXx]

It really does my head in when people side with social services. They have an opinion that "they are just doing what's best for the child". These people that have the opinion mostly have never even had involvement with SS, therefore don't see the lies and manipulation of a situation that they use.

It's easy for them to say that a parent 'could pose a risk' but do you know how hard it is to prove you wouldn't?

I seen an utterly revolting article that really baffled me. Social workers manage to get away with this stuff daily. Yet its not reported as it should be. This child was removed, with a judges permission. Then placed back with the mother by another judge.
There is so much corruption in our society and it needs to change.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/13/social-worker-criticised-child-taken-away-mother-refused-give/amp/

@NotMyPuppy Has anyone said "all social workers do this" no. Can you honestly say no social worker doesn't do this? Because that would be a huge lie. As I've said on a PP. My new one is brilliant. She compliments us each time she has seen us. Never had a bad word to say. But there are bad ones. And people need to be aware of that.

@TwoPupsandaHamsterwell you've added your own bit into this somewhere along the lines 1) at the first hearing the judge granted the interim care order. That enables the SS to chose where my child lives. Therefore they placed us in a foster placement 2)at the second hearing the judge ordered that I shouldnt be in that placement and that they needed to move me. They didn't. Even though I pestered them about this. 3) at the IRH. The SS wanted a supervision order. I agreed prior and we worked out and agreement (that took around two and a half hours. When we went into the court room the SS barrister told the judge they wanted the supervision order. The judge said we didn't need one. My solicitor stood up and explained we wanted to do a voluntary supervision order

Savannah that obviously had a great impact on your life. Nobody else could give a rats arse tbh.

Yawn!

Why don't you look at securing a job in Child Protection? Maybe then you might realise what is important in life.

Oops sorry! There's not a hope in hell would you be considered for a job working with vulnerable children. You are, obviously, all out for yourself and your violent thug partner.

Savanah how old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

@TwoPupsandaHamster he's far from a violent thug. You actually are laughable 😂😂 you shouldn't be allowed near kids if you form opinions like that WHEN EVERYONE KNEW HE DID ABSOLUTELY JACK SHIT. You've clearly got your knickers in a twist about something you. 😂😂 Aw what's the matter?

@auntethel 20 😂😂 19 when I had DD

TWENTY YEARS OLD. How embarrassing is that for you "professionals".

How is that embarrassing? It was very obvious how young she is.

Also. I'd easily be able to get a job in that field if I had an interest. I've got a squeaky clean record. And more of an insight on how to work with children who have been through trauma etc. Because I went through it, worked on it and i want to say 'survived' but I absolutely hate that term... Also if you're yawning about it and you don't care. Why are you replying? Why are you trying to put things into my own experience. Adding things that never even happened. So you clearly must care. Also. I love that you avoided the fact that you made up utter bullshit and was adamant I kept myself in a placement.

Yawn. You act younger than me, my lovely. 😊😊😊

auntethel

Savanahhow old are you, if you don't mind me asking

Seriously? You have protected Savannah all through this thread and you don't know how old she is?

She is 20. Her baby is 8 months old. How the fuck did you miss that?

Savannah hasn't yet entered the University of Life so has no business preaching to those who have.

Something tells me you are filling up the posts until the thread is closed Ethel. Why would you do that? I wonder? 🤔 😂😂

A supervision order is not a care order. It's to advice, befriend and assist.

A supervision order doesn’t necessarily mean children are accommodated, no, but it’s a statutory instrument to protect children who can’t be protected any other way, it confers looked after status on a child which means their care is supervised by the state- it’s nit by any means an advisory tool.

My baby is 7 month old. :S

Perfect examples, thank you all. I'm leaving this thread now Savanah. You have done so well, stay strong and proud. Good luck for the future for you, OH and DD. xx

Oh thank fuck for that 😂

@jellycatspyjamas as I've said though. I wanted to agree. I've seen my SW 3 times and shes going back to court to close it. She comes round for 10mins max. Asks how we all are and thats it. She leaves. No concerns. Always dead nice. Shes said it's pointless. And i agree. Ive done what i wanted to do. Continue to prove that I'm an amazing parent. They all agree. So that's it 🤗

And don't forget "professionals" show this thread to your families, friends and employers. I dare ya...............

@auntethel same to you! Xx

Oh thank fuck for that
👏👏👏😂😂😂

Hopefully the other idiot will find her way out too

I've only just spotted your question about the age, oh sensible adult TwoPups. I wanted the age towards the end because the thread is going somewhere. Byee.

I've only just spotted your question about the age, oh sensible adultTwoPups. I wanted the age towards the end because the thread is going somewhere. Byee

Byeee 👋👋👋 See you on another thread - unless I spot you first 😎

I wanted to agree.
You said that you asked for the supervision order for future reference, which is simply not a legal basis for a supervision order - regardless of whether you wanted it, or agreed to it it would have been granted and you would be legally required to comply with the terms of the order. It being removed now suggests they have no concerns now, but they did have significant concerns at one point.

Can you honestly say no social worker doesn't do this?

I have acknowledged that there are individual cases where social workers do very badly or even act unfairly, so no I’m not saying and have never said no social worker does that, but I think you’re implying it’s more than the odd bad apple.

In any case, and even though we disagree on the family justice system, it’s great the social worker wants to discharge the supervision order and you’ve clearly done really well for your baby.

Jeez, reading @auntethel and @Savanahxx is like reading Trump's speeches, full of congratulations on how they caught out 'the professionals'. It's frustrating!

There are great social workers, and crap ones, and I'd say the crap ones do try to cover up their shoddy work, probably by outright lying in reports. There are shite people in all walks of life. But to say there's a conspiracy in trying to get children away from parents and its in the governments best interests.... It's all a load of paranoid shite.

@jellycatspyjamas only the judge can answer why he did it. But he did. Bloody hell, I remember court like it happened today. He recommended we set another court date for the final hearing. But we was all in agreement. He had 0 power that day to say "no i disagree." He can only do that at the final hearing, were you all present your final evidence and speak etc. Then he makes the judgement, but if you all agree at the issues Resolution hearing then it's done. That's exactly what I did.

While they try to 'cover up their shoddy work' a child os being taken from their parent. It does happen. Again. Ive said some SW are great. Definitely no paranoid shite.

I guess what I’m saying is that even if the judge agreed it could go to final hearing, there still would have been a supervision order in the interim. The thing that stand out to me is that even having been through the process, you don’t seen to understand the legal status of your child or the purpose/authority that is held by a compulsory supervision order or that while you may be under the impression that you chose to have a supervision order, the reality is that by that point you don’t have a say in whether your child is made the subject of an order or not.

It’s important because having had looked after status at any point confers rights on your child with regard to education, additional support and services which can really play in your favour - fir example children who have been looked after sit further up the selection list for school places.

All of this should have been explained to you at some point and it’s worrying you don’t know, because your child could in future benefit from having been LAC.

@jellycatspyjamas she wouldnt of had a supervision order if we didn't agree. It would of still just been an interim care order. Both solicitors and the LA have said she is no longer a lac child. They have no power to tell us what to do etc. They can only advise us. Whether we take the advice or not, is a different story. All parties clarified this before we went into court. Hence why it took around two and a half hours.