People who have never experienced being in family court

[SavanahXx]

It really does my head in when people side with social services. They have an opinion that "they are just doing what's best for the child". These people that have the opinion mostly have never even had involvement with SS, therefore don't see the lies and manipulation of a situation that they use.

It's easy for them to say that a parent 'could pose a risk' but do you know how hard it is to prove you wouldn't?

I seen an utterly revolting article that really baffled me. Social workers manage to get away with this stuff daily. Yet its not reported as it should be. This child was removed, with a judges permission. Then placed back with the mother by another judge.
There is so much corruption in our society and it needs to change.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/13/social-worker-criticised-child-taken-away-mother-refused-give/amp/

I wouldn't mind @auntethel but im sure she misreads things on purpose🤔🤔

Savannah....give it a rest. I've been involved in more Child Protection Court Hearings than you've had hot dinners. Nobody gets to negotiate with a Judge FFS!

You are a stranger to the truth and so is your sidekick.
You fool nobody.... between you

Haha ok then my lovely. I think you'll find I was there. He ok'd it. He was abit puzzled as to why. But My solicitor explained why. It only made us look better in the long run anyway :). He was an extremely amazing judge. Very strict. But so very fair. And seen through their bullshit :).

So that's TwoPups, anyone else?

I’m not a social worker but even I can tell her story is utter nonsense. Unless you are the type of person who believes everything someone says on the net is true?

@auntethel that's TwoPups that's clearly misinformed haha. The LA's barrister stood up and said "your honour we recommend a supervision order" and his reply was "you realise they don't need a supervision order dont you?" The barrister stuttered and my solicitor stood up and said "your honour I hope that you'll respect the parents decision that they would like to voluntarily do the supervision order to prevent further involvement in the future. They have already agreed" and he hummed and said "if that's what they wish. They don't have to do it though. Are they aware of that" and both of our solicitors agreed so he ordered it :). It wasn't a 'negotiation' it was a request which he accepted. The judge liked us 👌👌

Haha ok then my lovely. I think you'll find I was there. He ok'd it. He was abit puzzled as to why. But My solicitor explained why. It only made us look better in the long run anyway. He was an extremely amazing judge. Very strict. But so very fair. And seen through their bullshit

And yet you create a thread on a parenting site to condemn and vilify our Child Protection Service, placing you as the victim. Well go you....arsehole! 🙄

@Nicknacky it really isn't 😂😂 oh I wish it was at times.

Nick you're a police officer, aren't you?

@TwoPupsandaHamster it's cute that you're resorting to calling me an arsehole 😂😂😂 don't get stressy because you don't know what to say love 👌👌 doesn't look the greatest 🤔

Well seeing as the same threshold has to be met for a Supervision Order to be granted as a Care Order, that little tale is a steaming pile of bullshit. Judges don't slap Supervision Orders on families who 'don't need one'.

You don’t get given a supervision order voluntarily, the whole point is that families are supported to work voluntarily - if statutory intervention isn’t needed it’s illegal to give a supervision order, because there’s no legal basis for intervention.

The judge can’t give you a supervision order because you want one, they need to be sure there’s no other way to keep children safe. The very nature of a supervision order is that parents are compelled to comply with its terms, you don’t have a choice about the bits you comply with or not. It’s in the name - compulsory supervision order.

I’ve been with you up until now, but you’re basically saying a judge exercised powers he doesn’t have.

I haven’t posted for days as this thread has got increasingly ridiculous but I’ve done hundreds of child protection proceedings as a barrister.

not In your experience is what the op saying likely?

ethel Yes, I am.

So Notmypuppy, jellycats,Twopups. Nick? Involved in child protection as a cop?

I deal with child protection in many ways at work, but not as a social worker. What is your point anyway?

Unless I missed that you actually are a social worker?

nicknack

Im perfectly willing to believe there are individual cases where the family is hard done by and social workers mess up, or even are deliberately unfair to the parents. But the suggestions on this thread about the system as a whole, about there being a low bar for removal, social workers are liars, the judge made an unnecessary supervision order - no, it totally lacks credibility.

And then there was Taco, foster carer?

Thank you not

I’m not a social worker but even I can tell her story is utter nonsense. Unless you are the type of person who believes everything someone says on the net is true

It is absolute nonsense! Savannah and Ethel are only interested in stories that vilify our Child Protection Service....because they see themselves as victims.

There is no way on this earth that a Judge would listen to a mother who has been cleared of "Not good enough parenting" yet claims she asked if she can remain within a foster placement for a further few months.

That will never happen. Child Protection resources are well overstretched. There are lots of abused, neglected, vulnerable children waiting for a safe home. Nobody with power will agree to someone using up valuable resources - including a valuable foster placement - with no desperate need.

Judges are there to.make a judgement when all the information is presented. Judges do not negotiate!

I have never heard so much absolute rubbish about Children's Services than on this thread!

Jeez! When will these people appreciate what they have (because of SS intervention) and butt out of making life difficult for children genuinely in need.

My personal experience of social services is that they helped our family and definitely out my daughter first. They were amazing.

Lot of people may have opinions on them based on the press, I was petrified when they came into my life. But they were a godsend.

Honestly @jellycatspyjamas the judge wanted us to go to final hearing instead because he said there wasn't a need for a supervision order... This was at an IRH. The judge has no power to make a decision until a final hearing to make a judgement against the SS. But we wanted to agree to the SD. The judge thought it was ridiculous, but again, he can't say no it's not needed case dismissed. It would of had to go to final hearing for that, and he wasn't next available till august anyway.

@TwoPupsandaHamster are you dyslexic? Do you not understand? A supervision order is not a care order. It's to advice, befriend and assist. It didnt keep me in the placement as you like to say. You are extremely stupid. You claim to have been to been to many CPH yet don't even understand the basics?

Advise*

I can't deal with the lies being spouted by you, @SavanahXx

As someone well acquainted with child protection, care planning regulations and the family court I find your nonsense laughable. But it's a shame that others might take on board your propaganda.