People who have never experienced being in family court

[SavanahXx]

It really does my head in when people side with social services. They have an opinion that "they are just doing what's best for the child". These people that have the opinion mostly have never even had involvement with SS, therefore don't see the lies and manipulation of a situation that they use.

It's easy for them to say that a parent 'could pose a risk' but do you know how hard it is to prove you wouldn't?

I seen an utterly revolting article that really baffled me. Social workers manage to get away with this stuff daily. Yet its not reported as it should be. This child was removed, with a judges permission. Then placed back with the mother by another judge.
There is so much corruption in our society and it needs to change.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/13/social-worker-criticised-child-taken-away-mother-refused-give/amp/

Sorry, bad choice of words. I should have said “headed the campaign to discredit him.”

You mean, the campaign to tell the truth about him. The facts about the way he fudged and lied about his results, had a personal financial interest and all the other murk really were indisputable.

Ah, right, auntethel, you're the one who decided that another poster's solicitor must have been conspiring with social services not to call an apparently favourable witness, despite the fact that you have no evidence for that and the solicitor concerned was apparently commissioned by a reputable charity that was trying to help her.

It doesn't make your position look any better, really, does it?

Do get some extra sleep Isatis You're actually rambling now.

Maternity Services Report 14. Child Protection As Social Control. Use of child "protection" or threats thereof, are increasingly being used to control parents who are seen as unorthodox, or not completely compliant

This thread has also served to highlight the absolute resentment felt by some professionals against parents who dare to speak out. Savanah and I have been subjected to comments such as "wicked, vile" and yet Maternity Services have received no such vitriol for their damning report? As it states in the report parents who are not completely compliant are being threatened with child protection. That can't happen on here of course.

The judge in my case ordered I be place in mother baby unit. Or mother baby foster placement. My solicitor said don't worry. You don't have to go to the foster placement. The judge didn't order that specifically, and there is no risk if you stay where you are. SS moved me on new year's eve. Knowing I couldn't speak to a solicitor to check for the 3rd time that I didn't have to go. I was bullied into doing it. I was told my solicitor was lying to me. And if I didn't go. They would take my baby. The Jude was realllyyyy not happy when he was told 😂😂

The judge**

Savanah how are you feeling this morning, any better with that cough?

@auntethel not really :( can't really stop coughing, and it keeps disturbing DD so I feel really guilty. OH is great at night because of it. I keep sleeping on the sofa while he listens out for the baby cause when I'm in bed it wakes her up 😥 so lucky I have such good support 😄😄

Parents get taxi fares paid for, to turn up at contact or court, they are offered support, counselling but most is thrown back in as faces.

Not true at all for me, SS provided very very little support, despite the fact I was a single parent with a severely disabled child. I desperately needed help, they just refused to give me any. I realise there are limited funds and amenities available but they could have done a lot more, they just left everything to me and then berated me when I made mistakes out of sheer exhaustion or lack of options.

There definitely are good SW who do great work out there but unfortunately I have not met any of them.

I got no financial support going to court or taking my DD to contact to see her dad. Neither did my OH. And weve been offered no counselling or anything else 😲 news to me.

Andrew Wakefield should be in prison for the rest of his life. His dishonesty, greed and arrogance has led to many completely preventable deaths of children.

Savanah sorry to hear you're still not well. Buttercup syrup is quite good for coughs, don't know if you've ever tried it? Anyway, I was just wondering, did you have any contact with SS before the start of the trouble, you know, before that last two weeks of your pregnancy?

ReanimatedSGB Today 00.48 I'm seriously beginning to wonder if some of these 'social workers ate my baby' wingnuts were actually suffering from something like Munchausens by Proxy at the time their DC were put into care Twelve hours following this disgusting, vitriolic attack Andrew Wakefield, chat chat chat WOW............... Is that some kind of personality change or what?...........

@auntethel nope. Not a peep from them

Sharkirasharkira hi, sorry to hear you had very little help. We had a very strange situation. We had brilliant SW's for years due to having two disabled people in our family. Support, respite, disability benefits advice etc. Then it suddenly all changed. Head of special school wanted DS out and into mainstream to make way for others on the waiting list. Also we asked for residential (because he kept injuring his sister.) We were thinking he could still continue special school from residential. Didn't know if that was possible and were waiting for discussions. Next thing slam!! Child protection meeting, then family court where they obtained care order and removed him from special. He was in foster homes until 15, then residential. Now adult, he's in supported living. But during foster care years, he was kept from his sister and parents for a year, then only 6 supervised contacts a year. It was crazy! So although it must be a struggle for you, please think very carefully before asking for more help. Just be very careful, please.

Savanah so you had nothing to do with SS at all, then suddenly your OH was caught up in a mistaken identity thing? And then what happened, if you don't mind saying? Just trying to get it clear in my head.

@auntethel they separated me from him 2 days later. Then the day after DD was born, they started care proceedings.
He took it to court because he was charged with the crime. And when the witness came in she said it wasn't him. it was booked in to be a 2 day trial, instead it took 15 minutes. But because we was already through care proceedings, ss wanted to save face and didn't want to admit they got ot wrong, so used other things instead. Blatant lies. They got grilled by the judge on every single court day 😂😂

So then you went to foster carers for three months even though OH was exonerated? And what about now, are you a closed case now?

This is great btw, we can actually talk without being harassed by the minions

@auntethel it's great isn't it haha! And i was there for a total of 6 months. Proceedings started on 21st December and in the middle of January, the judge ordered that I shouldnt even be in the foster placement, and they had to move me... I didn't move out till the end of June -.- they purposely didnt even make a referral for me to move until the end of April. Even though I kept asking, and asking. They also led the judge to believe they did adhere to the orders, and that they moved me to a mother baby unit. I didn't find that out until after proceedings ended.. and yeah it's closed.we did a voluntary supervision order which is finishing 3 months early because they have no concerns what so ever.

@auntethel also, I didn't go to a mother and baby unit. I found my own property and moved into it a week after the proceedings ended :)

I cannot believe what I'm reading. I'm with @Isatis, @ReanimatedSGB, @Nicknacky, @Spero on this.

OP and your sidekick, auntethel, please look at what you've written. You may consider this thread a success in your favour, but it really isn't.

Savanah Shit, spoke to soon! They're obsessed aren't they Anyway, must have been a relief when it was all over. And they now "have no concerns whatsoever" What concerns??? OH was exonerated almost immediately! So what concerns are these then? I wish someone could explain how you can commit no crime whatsoever, be no risk to a baby but literally held hostage for months? Going over the heads of judges on top. Then they wonder why they've got a bad name for themselves? Duh.......... So sorry your little family has been subjected to this and the birth and first months of DD ruined.

ethel it’s “too” not “to”.

I know how much you like the grammar to be perfect.