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House guests and rules....whats acceptable?

153 replies

Redgirl68 · 29/07/2019 17:39

My sister and family visited this weekend after 4 years- we live abroad. Her DH invited themselves and my DH had an issue from the start. I felt very much stuck in the middle for the past 4 months in the lead up to the visit as my husband and I fought as I argued it wouldn’t be that bad. I did share basic house rules with my sister before arrival - no shoes inside etc - she sneered a bit but said they would accept them.

My DH predicted exactly what would happen - constant swearing in front of kids, both of them arguing and bickering, mess everywhere, lights left on in all rooms, kids wild and only us requesting all 4 to lower voices, clam down etc. Her DH is the biggest issue – he left a planned day trip yesterday at 11.30 to go to a pub (because he had a hangover from previous day) ….and went to bed this morning at 4am - doors banging, microwave on at 2am. MY DH is furious with me for not listening to him, I’m a stressed mess after spending 3 days worrying my husband was going to lose his temper – he barely hid it on occasions- trying to run round behind them tidying up and putting up with her DH smart comments about how we live - our kids went to bed later than usual at 8.30pm but theirs go much later at same age, their kids watch anything they want online all the time ours don’t, we drum table manners they don’t and on and one. Just feels like we are living 2 completely different lives and I feel angry and sad now that they have left thinking all is fine and the only issue is we are uptight with too many rules. So I wonder on how much others adapt house rules for visitors, what’s acceptable tolerance levels and how if you have done have you broached house rules – esp. with family. (BTW we have had several other family visitors lately with no issues albeit uncles and aunts).

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ukgift2016 · 29/07/2019 17:44

You and your husband sound very precious and uptight.

Your husband also sounds like he has anger issues. Good luck.

user1493413286 · 29/07/2019 17:47

Was the issue with how they behaved or with your husband? I can’t work out which you found harder to manage although it sounds like your DH wasn’t going to let it be a good experience from his perception before they arrived.
When we have guests I tend to let mess slide although I would ask guests to keep it down a bit after my DD goes to bed. I keep to her bedtime but she’s only 2 whereas our older DSD will go to bed later when guess stay.
I would agree it was rude of your bil making noise in the night; if I’m up in the night at someone’s house (including my own) I make an effort to be as quiet as possible.
It’s a shame all of this has ruined a chance for you to see your sister and the children to all have fun together

Digitalash · 29/07/2019 17:49

How old all the kids? It's a bit 6 of one half a dozen of the other, I wouldn't be letting my kids watch things they didn't normally (within reason) and equally if I was staying somewhere i wouldn't let my kids watch something if the other kids weren't allowed. Lights on and stuff wouldn't bother me.

I agree with ukgift though your husband has anger issues and needs to learn to chill. Why does it matter if someone goes the pub while they are on holiday or uses the microwave?

MissConductUS · 29/07/2019 17:51

Your BIL has an alcohol abuse issue. Dealing with a hangover by drinking at noon is a bit of a tell. People like that make terrible house guests.

Get them out as quickly as possible and never permit them to return.

Stayawayfromitsmouth · 29/07/2019 17:52

6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other.
We relax rules a bit but I probably wouldn't have had your sisters family to stay because they sound very rude and I wouldn't hang out with someone who sneers at me.

IAskTooManyQuestions · 29/07/2019 17:53

Your BIL sounds atrocious. On the bright side, you wont be inviting them again

Amummyatlast · 29/07/2019 17:56

The doors banging and microwave on were at 2am in the morning, presumably disturbing people in the house. And swearing in front of kids. On what planet is that acceptable?

I would be furious too.

YouTheCat · 29/07/2019 17:59

They sound awful. Who would visit someone and allow their kids to run amok and their dh to get pissed?

Medicmog · 29/07/2019 17:59

They don't sound like great house guests, but for family, and one weekend in four years, it's worth keeping the peace for.

You being worried about your husband's temper is more worrying.

icannotremember · 29/07/2019 18:01

I’m a stressed mess after spending 3 days worrying my husband was going to lose his temper – he barely hid it on occasions- trying to run round behind them tidying up

This sounds horrible OP. Why are you so scared of your husband?

user1493494961 · 29/07/2019 18:02

I don't think you sound precious and uptight, they sound awful. Don't invite them again.

PoppyFleur · 29/07/2019 18:03

The doors banging and microwave on were at 2am in the morning, presumably disturbing people in the house. And swearing in front of kids. On what planet is that acceptable?

This.

I would tolerate mess, because more people does equal mess but disturbing the whole household by coming in drunk and microwaving food at 2am is not acceptable behaviour - towards the hosts or his own children!

Redgirl68 · 29/07/2019 18:09

Reference to DH temper was the fact I was afraid he would snap and say something that could never be unsaid.

Kids had a blast together unaware of any tension.

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LIZS · 29/07/2019 18:10

You and your dh sound pretty inflexible and almost hostile towards your sister and family. Having said that they should be able to follow basic niceties and going out, getting pissed and making noise in the night is not being a decent guest. Does your sister need support to stand up to her dh? How old are your respective children? Were the activities you have suggested age appropriate and engaging (can be hard if language is an issue) ? Do you have many guests?

Skittlenommer · 29/07/2019 18:13

“...she sneered a bit but said they would accept them”... this is the moment when the visit should have been called off.

Lesson learned. Never ever let these disrespectful idiots and their feral children in your house again.

CellularBlanket · 29/07/2019 18:14

I think house rules are acceptable. Guests' behaviour was appalling.
Do not invite again. I don't blame you DH; he knew what was going to happen and still they were invited and yes, the guests were awful.I would not tolerate anyone in my house who stayed out til the early hours, allowed their kids to do as they liked and swore around my children. YANBU

Don't worry about DH - just reassure him that DSis will not be coming again. It is his home too and his wishes need to be taken into account too - just as yours should be

Redgirl68 · 29/07/2019 18:21

@LIZS Yes you are right we are both a bit hostile but towards BiL only, he is not a very nice person with several issues and while it's easier to ignore in bigger family gatherings, 3 days direct interaction pushed it too far.

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LuckyLou7 · 29/07/2019 18:38

It's easy to ignore not so nice behaviour when you're only seeing people for a few hours at a time and in a neutral location. I've had houseguests from hell in the past - and I have learned my lesson. Every time someone pops up with a suggestion they visit, unfortunately we're away/working/have other plans.
Family are fine, they know how to behave, and they are always welcome - it's acquaintances and ex-colleagues who seem to think they can use our coastal house as a free holiday home.

You need never have your in-laws to stay again, no need to make excuses as to why. Take a deep breath, pour yourself a glass of wine and repeat to yourself NEVER AGAIN.

LauraMJ · 29/07/2019 18:40

Your husband sounds like an uptight pretentious prick Shock

Nowisthemonthofmaying · 29/07/2019 18:47

I think your husband sounds entirely justified in his worries about your family staying and the problems it would cause. They sound like awful house guests and I wouldn't invite them again. It's his home too and they didn't respect either of you or your house rules.

herculepoirot2 · 29/07/2019 18:47

I think it’s pretty unnecessary to have a house rule to tell guests that blatantly rude behaviour won’t be tolerated in my my home. Nobody who stays with me needs telling not to make noise in the middle of the night. We have kids and we’re past that. Stuff like shoes off we don’t really care about.

Honeysuckleandroses · 29/07/2019 18:51

I can sympathise. Nothing like on the scale you have experienced, but i have a sibling who has a very different parenting style to me. Her kids are allowed to run amok. Be rude to adults, interrupt, pull people's hair, jump on them, jump on the furniture. They go to bed very late and get up very early . I find them absolutely exhausting and stressful. Young adult male relatives being jumped on and socks pulled off etc till they leave in exasperation.

I can't ask them to stop because it would go down like a lead balloon. I absolutely dread having them in my house. We've moved to a smaller house and now I just say 'sorry, we haven't got the space' and breathe a sigh of relief.

Nautiloid · 29/07/2019 18:54

I relax quite a bit when I have guests. These guests do sound a bit Shock but I think the main issue here is you having to walk on eggshells around your husband.

mussolini9 · 29/07/2019 18:57

I did share basic house rules with my sister before arrival - no shoes inside etc - she sneered a bit but said they would accept them.

Well that's a grand concession from her innit.
You say it's the BiL's behaviour that's the main issue, but it seems like your DS is just as bad, & that you are just 2 very different couples.

You don't have to put up with their snarky comments & sneering again - just accept that they are never going to 'get' that your rules & behaviours are different, & that you never need to ask them to stay with you again.

GertrudeCB · 29/07/2019 18:59

So why did you roll over when they invited themselves?