To think in Boris calls an election now he will win.......

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I don’t want him to but what is the alternative!?

I wonder about people saying Labour would clearly win with a more centrist leader. That worked so well before Corbyn didn’t it? Blair lost all the votes and centrists couldn’t regain them. Corbyn did better. I just don’t get how someone could vote Tory or Lib Denpm under their new leader if they really want to vote Labour just ‘cos Corbyn’. Shows the Blairites are red Tories, really.

I'm confident that support for this idiot will plummet drastically over the next few months.

cardiabach Blair was PM. Corbyn hasn't been and won't be.

People want the centre ground. They don't, I think, want a far left or a far right government.

FWIW calling me a red tory wouldnt make me suddenly vote Corbyn, I'm a remainer and can't abide antisemitism so those are two reasons.

Tories would win but not have majority.

Same here @Cinammoncake, no majority isn’t a win @BloggersNet.

“I am a right wing leaver tho so my opinion I’m sure will be shouted down.”
Do you mean “disagreed with”?

Labour would hands down win an election right now if they had a different leader. Corbyn is unelectable. I just get the feeling Labour are waiting till after whatever happens with brexit to get rid of him and then 'swoop in' to rebuild the country.

Being in power right now is the ultimate no win scenario for any party.

I honestly want to know what people think Tony Blair did for the vulnerable under his reign.

Food banks don't suddenly spring up over night.
I cannot believe anyone thinks the Labour Party as it is, will do anything for vulnerable people in the the UK.
Don't people understand its many of the vulnerable who voted to leave, because of Blair! But no one cares they just say turkeys voted for Xmas. These turkeys have already been roasted under Blair!

So because no in labour still speaks for these people and still speaks at them, telling them what's really wrong with them.

A long time ago a poster said it's like every day a poster is stuck in traffic, road works, bad traffic planning, but they are stuck. Yet media, and others say no your not your not stuck.

It's not the councils fault, it's not really being stuck. Or another analogy someone used was woman beaten by husband, one half tells why he beats her, his awful upbringing but doesn't actually get her out or stop it. The other side of labour says she isn't being beaten and gas lights her.

So I think tory will win because Labour are down a deep rabbit hole.

Cinnamon I would consider voting Green (though they too subscribe to the "a woman is anyone who says they are a woman" nonsense. They are not as robustly remain as I'd like but if a GE was called I will be in the booth hovering between lib dem, green or spoiling my ballot and wishing there was a decent opposition to this terrible current cabinet.

Tony Blair was hopefully A one off lying, shifty nasty charleton.

He ruined and destroyed labour.
I think someone like David m or of that ilk may have a small chance to repair the damage.
He seems very straight up and honest, could be wrong but he doesn't seem shifty like these other fockers including corbyn the shiftiest of them all.

Alsohuman AW is a terrifying thought. Hopefully she's too batshit even for the Brexit Party but I won't hold my breath

I think a green candidate was on news few days ago she admitted even if another referendum voted leave she wouldn't honour it.

Brexit is more pressing and we can (hopefully) sort out women's rights a little later.
My thoughts too. I think the tide is slowly turning on the more extremists in that area anyway.

Knitted - Swinson said that too. But what does "not honouring it" mean? Surely it just means they would vote down any rubbish deal if it is put to parliament? Which is only fair!

I think if it is treated like a vote on Brexit, if all Remainers vote for Lib dems, there could be a chance of LibDems getting in and stopping Brexit

I think the Tories would win a GE with Johnson at the helm. People fall for his charisma and he is already announcing vote winning policies (20,000 more police).

Corbyn has proved to be hopeless, whoever advises him needs to be sacked. Labour should have had the Tories on the ropes months ago.

BUT if he fails to "do" Brexit by Hallowe'en, he will be toast.

@Knittedjimmychoos, there were two foodbanks in the whole of the UK the year Blair left power. Two. There are now 2000. The leave vote was ten years after Blair left power, after five years of Tory austerity.

If you’re going to condemn politicians, it’s quite a good idea to get your facts within shouting distance of correct.

She was pressed, if another ref went leave would she accept that result, she said no.

I'd quite like to see Dawn Butler as Labour leader. She has a bit of oomph about her, a bit of charisma that is lacking in a lot of the other potential leaders.

The problem Corbyn has also got is he listens to party members rather than Labour party voters(there is a lot more voters than members, Labour are also reluctant to back remain as if you look at the areas that backed Brexit a lot of those were Labour seats and could be devestating and they would lose lots of seats they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Also Corbyn he's got to be a moron who would want to be prime minister at his age or does he want the last bit of power.

Corbyn failed last time and didn't resign, I think he would fail again and calling for a general election is arrogant.

Bertrand I'd love to know what a natural Labour voter is.

And don't worry, people are terrified of corbyn, fucking terrified.

Corbyn is too stuck to his principles which you wouldn't normally consider a problem. what being eurosceptic all his life until after being elected labour leader what a principled person

You see, I think that is the crux of his difficulty. He is principled and he hates the EU, but his party have voted to oppose Brexit. So as his leader he needs to follow the parties declared policy, but he is idealogically incapable of doing it. And has thus sat on his hands for the last 3 years in the hopes that his party will change their minds or something...

Also human, families being run down to the point of needing food banks takes time.
Loosing job, slowly failing in mortgage repayments, eating into cash reserves, family breakdown occurring...depression.

And after some other stuff, food banks.

I know I was in one of those families.
So do not preach to me. We've had ballifs circling round outside. And I've spoken to, supported and been in small charities that were swamped and collapsed after Blair years.
The momentum was created under Tony Blair.

I think counting all the votes up he’d win more than anyone else but am not as confident to assert he’d reach s parliamentary majority. Whoever said in his dreams because I don’t anyone who’d vote for him is sadly living in his or her dreams. Echo chamber central that is. Most of the people I know wouldn’t vote for Corbyn but that doesn’t mean I can’t recognise that many people would