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To think in Boris calls an election now he will win.......

340 replies

Bobbindobbin · 26/07/2019 16:45

I don’t want him to but what is the alternative!?

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VashtaNerada · 29/07/2019 07:40

I would love a Corbyn government, I think it would make such an impact on the huge levels of poverty I’m seeing every day. Unfortunately, he’s a politician and not a ‘character’ so I don’t think he’d win. I’m not a huge fan of Jo Swinson but she would be significantly better than Boris. Anyone claiming the three are comparable really hasn’t been paying attention.

Peregrina · 29/07/2019 08:18

I think you are really saying that you would like a Labour Government? A lot of us would be perfectly happy with many of their policies, but don't think Corbyn is the best person to sell them to us.

Poloshot · 29/07/2019 08:36

Absolutely he would win.

Dongdingdong · 29/07/2019 08:59

The one and only good thing about an GE is the fact that JC will end up resigning when he loses it.

How can you be so sure? After all he lost the last GE and didn’t resign.

I think the Tories would win a GE but only by default (and by making a pact with Farage). If Labour had a different, pro-remain leader they would clean up.

borisisbonkers · 29/07/2019 09:23

Only losing a vote of membership will make JC resign imho. Best remainders can hope for is remain-labour mps departing the whip and going into formal coalition with a remain group after a GE.

Some of labour’s policies are ok but I’ve no faith that they could implement them well. The implementation matters.

Grinchly · 29/07/2019 09:59

Anyone hear Raab on Today? Spine chilling. Did not deny they are considering imposing direct rUle on Ireland in event of no deal.

It's becoming clearer and clearer they have no intention of negotiating anything with the EU. The blizzard of statements and promise of largesse far and wide is transparent electioneering. Also nicking labour's promises. Cummings is already running rings around them.

We will crash out.

I have no hope left.

GirlsBlouse17 · 29/07/2019 10:20

What can the rest of Parliament do to prevent a no deal Brexit end of October?

JustAnotherPoster00 · 29/07/2019 11:08

If Labour had a different, pro-remain leader they would clean up.

Evidence for this or are we as always depending on a crystal ball

Alsohuman · 29/07/2019 11:12

You don’t need a crystal ball. The vast majority of Labour supporters are remainers.

birdsdestiny · 29/07/2019 11:15

Evidence that corbyn can win or we are just depending on a crystal ball.

GazingIntoTheAbyss · 29/07/2019 11:42

Having watched yesterday's Jeremy Corbyn interview on Sophy Ridge, I sadly suspect that Johnson would win.

Labour's weak opposition combined with the greed of the rich who see rich pickings and the gullibility of the poor who STILL believe in unicorns makes this highly likely.

Janista · 29/07/2019 12:39

I don’t think Boris will call an election until after we’ve left on Oct 31.

There could be a vote of no confidence but the government could quite easily win it.

Many Labour MPs are also shit scared of an election if brexit has been frustrated again.

Even if Boris did ask for an election, the chances of getting the necessary 67% of MPs to back it is far from certain.

I suspect the most likely scenario is Johnson returns without the EU offering substantial change by September.

There will be half arsed attempts to bring forward “motions” to stop any particular course of action...just like last time - which will hold no weight.

Remember parliament has already had a vote on all the options, including 2nd referendum, customs union, deal, no deal etc have all been voted down in the past.

possibly then, there will a vote of no confidence which could pass, or it could fail.

Even If it passes, it is very unlikely that there will be time to cal an election and get it through parliament by the requisite majority required and then hold that election before oct 31.

Also, Johnson is unlikely to be forced out and no alternative PM is likely to be able to command a majority either.

No deal is very, very likely now - almost certain.

Ibiza2015 · 02/08/2019 01:48

How can you be so sure? After all he lost the last GE and didn’t resign.

After the last election even though he lost it was seen as a triumph for JC because he’d reduced the Tory majority in a race where the Tories were polling 40%. The reaction then was ‘Oh, we thought we were going to get a terrible drubbing and JC turned it around’.

The problem with that though is that we now know Theresa May is one of the worst PMs we’ve ever had and crashingly incompetent. Her awful 2017 campaign was the first inkling of her incapability. And that’s changed the narrative on JC. Voters no longer see him as David taking on Goliath and almost winning, they see his 2017 campaign as a letdown because any half decent politician should have wiped the floor with May and he didn’t. Plus for most of her premiership even though loads of people thought she was crap, they thought he was worse. He could rarely turn her bunglings into points at the polls.

The other thing to consider is that Britain has always been a pretty centrist country. There’s up to about 10% who would consider voting for a real far right party like UKIP or For Britain, the other 90% would never dream of it. But JC has that problem in reverse, he is very, very far left so the people who would consider voting for him is limited and plateaus after a certain level.

I think it’s curtains for him and I think he knows it. I think he’s very unhappy about being bounced to support Remain and his heart isn’t in it anymore.

Alislia17 · 02/08/2019 03:16

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